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re: Lord of the Rings>>>>Star Wars

Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:44 am to
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:44 am to
Out of all 12 movies between the two series, the best till this day is Empire Strikes Back. As a kid I hated it but as an adult I love it more every time I see it. Lucas should have just handed over all the directing duties for Episode VI, I, II and III over to Irvin Kershner and been done with it. That is the one thing that stands out with the LOTR/Hobbit series is the fact you have the same director for all movies. After Star Wars: Episode IV, Lucas should have never directed another episode of Star Wars.

I love LOTR. I had to read the Hobbit in 7th grade and was hooked. Loved all the LOTR movies but still enjoyed the books much better.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by davesdawgs
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:01 pm to
Both are historic movie franchises but I would rank LotR higher. Both were filmed out of chronological order. Star Wars because the producer decided to create poorly executed prequels. LotR due to rights litigation/issues that were beyond the control of Peter Jackson. I would have preferred a chronological production of the Hobbit and the LotR but even as is The Hobbit movies are vastly superior to the Star Wars prequels.
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:58 pm to
If you are looking at the original trilogies only, Star Wars is better. If you take into account all 6 movies of each franchise, then I could see how LOTR might could be considered better. The Star Wars prequels were a huge disappointment in about every way. The Hobbit movies weren't exactly a masterpiece either. Had Jackson kept it to two movies it could have been great.

If I were ranking the 6 movies:
1. The Empire Strikes Back - Far and away the best
2. The Two Towers - Love the Helm's Deep battle
3. Return of the King - All the endings drag on for me
4. Star Wars - This movie still holds up well even after almost 40 years
5. Return of the Jedi - Without Ewoks, this would have been great
6 Fellowship of the Ring - Enjoyable, but just too many boring scenes between a couple great scenes

I give Star Wars the nod just due to how superior The Empire Strikes Back is compared to all the others.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:43 am to

quote:

1). No incestual love triangles
2). No attempts to cast N'Sync for publicity
3). LOTR did the entire, "Crazy wizard gives young and unskilled boy a powerful item and dies to save young boy" thing first.
4). LOTR trilogy was made all at once
5). Arwen>>>>>Amidala
6). Gandalf's friend and ally who owed him a life debt was Gwahir Windlord, the noble king of the giant eagles. Qui Gon had Jar Jar.
7). Furry movie characters don't break into song
8). Pete can't tease us with the promise of a new episode for 25 years and then make up something as lame as midichlorians.
9). It's more satisfying to see an Orc get beheaded then a Stormtrooper fall down.
10). Han Solo is a filthy rogue who turns out to be, er, a slightly cleaner rogue, while in LOTR Strider, the filthy rogue, becomes Aragorn, king of mankind.
11). Peter Jackson simply cannot make shite up as he goes along.
12). LotR is better because I know that Peter Jackson isn't going to rerelease The Two Towers just so some uruk-hai can shoot first in the Battle of Helm's Deep.

The list goes on.



1. Just Sam's weird bi-curious tendencies and Merry / Pippen were clearly banging off screen.

2. I didn't even know they were in it.

3. LOTR was certainly not the "first" archetypal fantasy epic although it was the most influential.

4. Except for the Hobbit "Trilogy"

5. So you are comparing LOTR to prequel Star Wars Trilogy? lol I wonder why you picked that one.

6. Again Prequel? And why didn't Gandalf just get his friend to tell the Eagles to drop the ring in the fire, or come save them countless other times. Also Qui Gon wouldn't even be Gandalf in a reasonable comparison, it would be Obi Wan or Yoda.

7. Yes they do, dwarves in the Hobbit Trilogy and i Know there was some singing by the Hobbits in LOTR.

8. Ya but LOTR just has people get saved by the eagles whenever they want. Equally as lame.

9. For sure, but also satisfying to see an entire planet get blown up.

10. SO, now we are comparing LOTR to original trilogy? Pick one and stick with it, this is a very disingenuous post.

11. He stayed very true to the series, much more so than most - this was easier than other adaptions because LOTR is a very linear story which doesn't get very distracted with subplots and secondary story lines.

12. Ya but they turned the fricking Hobbit into a trilogy - talk about cash grab.


All that said, LOTR > Star Wars
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:

If Lucas just substituted Wookies for Ewoks it could've been the GOAT trilogy


Fun fact. When it came to filming the Endor battle, they were close to or at least over budget and couldn't afford to make large suits for large actors to play Wookiees.

So they made smaller cheaper suits and "reversed" the name to ewoks
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3082 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:53 am to
Yeah because they're not based on books or anything.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60096 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:57 am to
I respect the LOTR trilogy, but I was never much of a fan. I've tried re watching it but I can't even get thru the first film. Star Wars is something I can watch over and over.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60096 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:59 am to
quote:

"Fellowship" is one of the most boring movies I have ever seen.


Completely agree
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:05 am to
All right, look, there's only one "Return," okay, and it ain't "of the King," it's "of the Jedi."

What the frick happened to this world? There's only one trilogy, you fricking morons.

Those frickin' hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was, was a bunch of people walking, three movies of people walking to a fricking volcano.

Let me tell you something; if Peter Jackson really wanted to blow me away with those Rings movies, then he would've ended the third one on the logical closure point, not the 25 endings that followed.

You remember when Frodo wakes up from his coma or whatever, and all the little hobbits are jumping up and down on his bed, then Sam leans in through the doorway and gives him that very fricking gay look?

That look was so gay I thought Sam was gonna tell the little hobbits to take a walk so he could saunter over to Frodo and suck his fricking cock. Now that would have been an Academy Award worthy ending.

And then right after the Sam-Frodo suckfest, right before the credits roll, Sam frickin' flat-out bricks in Frodo's mouth.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

when the eagles came in the last Hobbit, i was like...okay, wtf man, this is how they're bailed out...again?


I like to think this is an allegory about the US coming in to save the allies asses again.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60096 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:09 am to
quote:

You remember when Frodo wakes up from his coma or whatever, and all the little hobbits are jumping up and down on his bed, then Sam leans in through the doorway and gives him that very fricking gay look?


Posted by Thurber
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Member since Aug 2013
15405 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:55 am to
agreed
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21050 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:14 am to
Game of Thrones > Lord of the Rings > Star Wars
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1176 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:17 am to
I've been trying to upvote downvote, but it's already been done.

Solid sneaky bump
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 11:18 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:28 am to
Book series hasn't even been completed (and doesn't seem like it will) also the books had real potential but took a serious dive once it became obvious GRRM doesn't know how he is supposed to get to the last half of the final book.

TV and movies aren't really comparable honestly. I almost would have agreed with you but the TV series has been really hurt by a lack of direction / help from the author as well as some poor choices regarding some of the story lines.

All three have been major game changers for the fantasy genre though.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:35 am to


Courtesy Oglaf. Don't look it up at work as it's easier for them to point out what's SFW than what's NSFW.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Game of Thrones > Lord of the Rings > Star Wars




Maybe on opposite day
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:45 am to
I think LoTR are better movies, but I like the Star Wars universe more.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54447 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:35 pm to
Seriously. This thread is laughable.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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8459 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:50 pm to
Can't I love both?
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