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re: Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power trailers (updated with new comic con trailer)
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:04 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:04 pm to OMLandshark
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Oh frick off. You admitted it, David Duke.
Quote me then.
Also, David Duke? Lol famous for loving black people In white setting of course.
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So you don’t think that someone can identify with someone outside of their race. Keep doubling down, klansman.
You’re literally screaming black people cant be in middle earth. It’s not about identifying with characters it’s about immersion into a fantasy. And again, not claiming to speak for all black people.
But it’s not a made up issue.
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No it made sense in context.
No it didn’t.
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But you’d be the first to call them the N-Bomb if they didn’t appreciate you fighting for them.
I’ve never done that in my life. You can’t make shite up and pretend you have a good argument.
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It was not supposed to be literal, you communist cocksucker.
Again, the opposite of literal isn’t visceral.
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Again it’s Tolkien
Not again, you keep saying it’s yours.
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but you, a self loathing white supremacist (I mean that by the way) think you know what’s best for the property.
I didnt Make the show. I am Just not shitting my pants about black hobbits,
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Yah huh. How many racial slurs could you get out of your mouth within a minute if a black person said what I have said (and there are many who agree with me)?
0. This is pathetic.
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You are a white supremacist. You are the worst of both worlds being a commie and a klannie. Go frick yourself.
You’re whole arguement is essentially separate but equal fantasy franchises but you want to pretend somehow I’m the racist one because I’m Not angry there are black people in this show?
Again, that’s my whole argument. This isn’t that bad.
You’re argument is the presence of black people ruins the show. They should stay out of YOUR a property. But that’s not racist.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:34 pm to SammyTiger
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You are too upset about black people being in your all white fantasy land.
You said it yourself. It’s a white fantasy land.
So why are there Black people in it? How is that racist?
Even black Tolkien fans understand how ridiculous this is. So does that make them racist too?
But this trash goes far beyond appropriating make-believe elves, dwarves and hobbits. It is a fluster cluck of nonsense which has nothing to do with the original source material.
That is why people are upset, get over your damn self.
You accuse somebody of racism you better have a goddamn good example proving your point.
So far, you have nothing.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:02 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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You said it yourself. It’s a white fantasy land. So why are there Black people in it? How is that racist?
It’s not salting why they’re there, it’s being upset they’re there.
It’s different. But you’re reaction is so far and beyond a cosmetic change to a character.
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Even black Tolkien fans understand how ridiculous this is. So does that make them racist too?
And some think it’s great. Y’all love to speak for all Tolkien fans.
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But this trash goes far beyond appropriating make-believe elves, dwarves and hobbits. It is a fluster cluck of nonsense which has nothing to do with the original source material.
Because the source material they got the rights too isn’t going to make sense as a show.
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That is why people are upset, get over your damn self.
Says the self proclaimed judge of all Tolkien fans.
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You accuse somebody of racism you better have a goddamn good example proving your point.
You think black actors are ruining a show. You are advocating for separate but equal. This are all pretty classic racist arguments you are making.
If the Fellowship of the Rings was shot for shot exactly the same but the hobbits were black would it be bad? You’re arguing yes just because they’re back.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:08 pm to SammyTiger
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Also, David Duke? Lol famous for loving black people In white setting of course.
My point is the only difference between the two of you is you are guilt ridden. He is not.
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You’re literally screaming black people cant be in middle earth
They can be but I need an explanation.
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I’ve never done that in my life. You can’t make shite up and pretend you have a good argument.
Oh please if Candace Owens came across your path, you’d have actual klansmen telling you to tone it down in your blatant racism what you’d say to her, you self loathing white supremacist.
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Not again, you keep saying it’s yours.
Nope, it’s Tolkien’s, but like all communist cocksuckers, you think anything is yours and you can steal it. frick you, you white supremacist commie.
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You’re whole arguement is essentially separate but equal fantasy franchises but you want to pretend somehow I’m the racist one because I’m Not angry there are black people in this show?
Again, that’s my whole argument. This isn’t that bad.
You’re argument is the presence of black people ruins the show. They should stay out of YOUR a property. But that’s not racist.
No you think you owe it to black people to get them jobs to make up for lynching one in 2008 even though you deep down think he deserved it. And if he refuses your job, then you’ll lynch that one as well for refusing your charity. You’re a white supremacist. frick you, you racist piece of shite.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:35 pm to OMLandshark
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My point is the only difference between the two of you is you are guilt ridden. He is not.
And our stance On segregation. And our stance on gays. I’m also Jewish, and I know he has some opinions on that.
I’m sure he loves the idea of black hobbits. No one wants more black representation that avid segregationist David Duke.
You fricking bozo.
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They can be but I need an explanation.
Is, the show is slightly different from the books, not enough? Suspend disbelief and you’ll be fine.
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Oh please if Candace Owens came across your path, you’d have actual klansmen telling you to tone it down in your blatant racism what you’d say to her, you self loathing white supremacist.
Y’all love to think that while hating every other black person.
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Nope, it’s Tolkien’s, but like all communist cocksuckers, you think anything is yours and you can steal it. frick you, you white supremacist commie.
Also you:
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You don’t come onto my property I know damn well what the author was going for, you lying self loathing white supremacist.
Oh don’t come on to your property?
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No you think you owe it to black people to get them jobs to make up for lynching one in 2008 even though you deep down think he deserved it.
Maybe they’re just the best actors for the job. Sorry you think any black accomplishment is a handout.
Also, who the frick do you think I lunched In 2008 you fricking lunatic.
You are spiraling. You don’t even try and address any of my points anymore you just curse and make up something you think I would do that makes you feel better abo it being a racist count.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:18 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s not salting why they’re there, it’s being upset they’re there.
Because they shouldn't be there. It literally makes no sense. None.
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It’s different. But you’re reaction is so far and beyond a cosmetic change to a character.
Not sure what you're even talking about here. Unless you're saying black people are only 'cosmetically' different than white people? If it's so trivial matter, why bother?
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And some think it’s great. Y’all love to speak for all Tolkien fans.
I posted 2 vids from a very well-educated & versed Tolkien fan. Knows the characters and stories inside and out. How many times have YOU read The Silmarillion?
I'm speaking for MYSELF mainly. I post what others are saying also to given depth and detail as to the particulars, especially for those who aren't familiar with Tolkien. Like most here in this thread. Or anyone working for Amazon.
quote:Makes ya wonder what the hell they were thinking then!
Because the source material they got the rights too isn’t going to make sense as a show.
But it would make sense if the kept Tom Shippey and those interested in preserving the lore. But Bezos wanted his own GoT instead, screw canon.
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Says the self proclaimed judge of all Tolkien fans.
No, say the PEOPOLE who themselves are Tolkien fans! Have you SEEN the ratio to those trailers on YouTube? Or the reviews and break down vids by all those YouTube channels? Abysmal! quote:It's not remotely racist. They don't belong. Period. I've already stated they COULD be introduced in a manner which makes sense, as those being from Harad and Rhûn, but you're so unfamiliar with that (didn't watch the video, did ya?) that you just want to spout off "muh Racism" !
You think black actors are ruining a show. You are advocating for separate but equal. This are all pretty classic racist arguments you are making.
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If the Fellowship of the Rings was shot for shot exactly the same but the hobbits were black would it be bad? You’re arguing yes just because they’re back.
Yes. Because for the 1000th time, it wouldn't be keeping with what Tolkien wrote. He literally described how the various peoples looked, acted, their languages, customs, history, what they wore...
Why the frick don't you want to respect the creator's vision?
That makes YOU the racist fricker.
(And how racist of me to start a thread promoting The Rippaverse? I know, right? A black man starting his own comic book company featuring and original black super hero!)
Screw you.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:47 pm to SammyTiger
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You think black actors are ruining a show. You are advocating for separate but equal. This are all pretty classic racist arguments you are making.
Now hold on a minute, nobody is advocating for separate graduations, or beauty pageants or cable networks.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:40 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Take a step back and listen to yourself.
We’re you this mad when the dwarves in the Hobbit didn’t have multicolored g
Hoods and beards?
Share THAT thread.
Tolkien tells you every dwarves beard color.
Dwalin: blue beard, dark-green hood, golden belt
Balin: white beard, scarlet hood, old
Fili and Kili: yellow beards, blue hoods, silver belts, young
Dori, Nori, Ori, Oin, Gloin: two purple hoods, a grey hood, a brown hood, a white hood, with gold and silver belts (the book did not say which hood/belt belonged to which dwarf)
Bifur, Bofur: yellow hoods
Bombur: pale green hood, fat
Thorin: sky-blue hood with silver tassel
Is that how they look in the Movie?
No. Where are your fricking threads about THAT!?
But you change the color of someone skin and you’re willing to go on and on.
Think about that. Why does one upset you and not the other.
If you’re going to be a stickler, be consistent.
Remember, I didn’t make this fricking show.
I’m just not shitting my pants about this like you.
We’re you this mad when the dwarves in the Hobbit didn’t have multicolored g
Hoods and beards?
Share THAT thread.
Tolkien tells you every dwarves beard color.
Dwalin: blue beard, dark-green hood, golden belt
Balin: white beard, scarlet hood, old
Fili and Kili: yellow beards, blue hoods, silver belts, young
Dori, Nori, Ori, Oin, Gloin: two purple hoods, a grey hood, a brown hood, a white hood, with gold and silver belts (the book did not say which hood/belt belonged to which dwarf)
Bifur, Bofur: yellow hoods
Bombur: pale green hood, fat
Thorin: sky-blue hood with silver tassel
Is that how they look in the Movie?
No. Where are your fricking threads about THAT!?
But you change the color of someone skin and you’re willing to go on and on.
Think about that. Why does one upset you and not the other.
If you’re going to be a stickler, be consistent.
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Why the frick don't you want to respect the creator's vision? That makes YOU the racist fricker
Remember, I didn’t make this fricking show.
I’m just not shitting my pants about this like you.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:51 pm to SammyTiger
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SammyTiger
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:54 pm to OMLandshark
“I’m not racist I just choose to get annoyed about race and not other details”
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:17 pm to SammyTiger
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“I’m not racist I just choose to get annoyed about race and not other details”
Dude, this isn’t going to make up for the time you lit a random black dude at a gas station on fire for not calling you “Sir”. I know you’re guilt ridden by it and still think he should have done it and mostly blame it on him, but you being Woke we both know damn well know you’d light Larry Elder on fire for daring to be a black man standing up to white men like you. You are a white supremacist. Go frick yourself.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:20 pm to OMLandshark
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Dude, this isn’t going to make up for the time you lit a random black dude at a gas station on fire for not calling you “Sir”.
You have enough imagination to come up with this about me but can’t imagine a black hobbit?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:23 pm to SammyTiger
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You have enough imagination to come up with this about me but can’t imagine a black hobbit?
I’m not the white supremacist demanding minorities take up roles due to the guilt that I’ve been a racist my entire life. That is you, you fricking racist. I love how you called me it because it is the substance to your argument and you are as racist as the day is long. I know you long to say racist slurs to anyone you disagree with.
By the way, what if I’m black? For the sake of the argument, I’m black. What do you have to say to me now, you racist mother fricker?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:45 pm to SammyTiger
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but can’t imagine a black hobbit?
As I’m sure someone has written here, Tolkien created a work of heroic mythology for the English people. He was filling what he saw as a hole.
You can certainly recast everyone to be the colors of the rainbow, because you want to make it about not English people.
But then it’s not Tolkien. And it’s probably shite too. Because you’re making some god awful polemic, with a bad script, and mixed acting at best.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:48 pm to OMLandshark
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By the way, what if I’m black? For the sake of the argument, I’m black. What do you have to say to me now, you racist mother fricker?
You’re not black though.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:49 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re not black though.
Many thousands of black people agree with me though. What do you have to say to them after you call them the N-Bomb?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:58 pm to Lima Whiskey
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As I’m sure someone has written here, Tolkien created a work of heroic mythology for the English people. He was filling what he saw as a hole.
I guess king Arthur wasn’t enough? It’s been discussed. Yes he was influenced by Celtic mythology, and wanted to systhsice various English legend and folklore togeherZ
He also said he wasn’t a fan of allegory and “I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.” so we have Tolkien’s permission to read it how we want.
Again, go look at the map of Middle
earth, it isn’t England.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 7/17/22 at 12:03 am to OMLandshark
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Many thousands of black people agree with me though
Well you’ve proven yourself so trustworthy so far why wouldn’t I beliebe The guy who accused me of lynching someone in 2008 and setting a man on fire at a gas station.
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What do you have to say to them after you call them the N-Bomb?
Why would I call them the N-word? You’re the one who doesn’t want them on your property
Posted on 7/17/22 at 12:07 am to SammyTiger
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In a pretty Minor way unless you really care about skin color.
You people are fricking mentally ill. You’ve created this situation and argument because of skin color you stupid frick.
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