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re: Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power trailers (updated with new comic con trailer)

Posted on 7/16/22 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 4:57 pm to
I’m not going to. I watched the trailer. I formed An opinion.

I’m an adult I dont Need someone on YouTube to tell me What to think.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:04 pm to
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Universal themes. That transcend nationality and race.


So? How's that equate to interjecting race into characters who were specifically described a certain way?

I got those 'universal themes' by watching Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Not a single white guy anywhere to be seen. Same with Kung Fu Hustle. And add every other damn movie across the world which DOESN'T have anyone who looks like me in it.

Literally you've to zero case here.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:07 pm to
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I’m not going to. I watched the trailer. I formed An opinion.

I’m an adult I dont Need someone on YouTube to tell me What to think


You need someone to tell you how to type, it seems.


You watched a trailer to a show about stories you know NOTHING about.

The linked video I posted explains it. They guy on the video knows what he's talking about.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:08 pm to
If you think I’m arguing that the NEED to change characters you have a point.

But I’m saying it’s not going to ruin it.

Which is different.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:14 pm to
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Universal themes. That transcend nationality and race.


Then go watch and read another property then. This is no different than demanding that Avatar: The Last Airbender include white people due to its universal themes. No, Avatar primarily has Eastern themes and thus should be relegated to that in preserving the material as it was intended. I don’t think people in the Middle East are all that big of a fan of Lord of the Rings.

What’s next? Casting an Asian as N-Bomb Jim in a Huck Finn movie? Why not make Tom Sawyer Latinx while we’re at it?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47270 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:16 pm to
The interjecting of race isn't the only problem with this mess.

It's disrespecting the characters themselves (like Galadriel) as well.

This series is already ruined.

The 'why' is fully explained in the videos you're too scared of watching.

Have it your way.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:16 pm to
You continue to confuse setting with theme

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:18 pm to
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You continue to confuse setting with theme


You don’t remotely understand the themes, you communist cocksucker.

And you would call me a racist for the same reasons if I demanded white people in Avatar. You are a lying scumbag. Go take a long walk off of a short pier, cunt
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:19 pm to
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No, you are arguing they were actually there.


Quite me then.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:21 pm to
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Quite me then.


Ummm, if they weren’t then why cast them that way? About being representative? Again this isn’t the same as casting Denzel Washington as MacBeth in a visceral interpretation. No, you are a racist Sammy. Talk about throwing stones from glass houses.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:34 pm to
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You don’t remotely understand the themes, you communist cocksucker.


You don’t know what a theme is. You haven’t even mentioned 1.

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And you would call me a racist for the same reasons if I demanded white people in Avatar. You are lying scumbag. Go take a long walk off of a short pier, count


I’m calling you racist because you are.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:38 pm to
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Ummm, if they weren’t then why cast them that way?


Don’t deflect. Quote me saying back hobbits exist. It’s all fictional. This is a stylistic choice.

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Again this isn’t the same as casting Denzel Washington as MacBeth in a visceral interpretation.


Visceral doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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No, you are a racist Sammy. Talk about throwing stones from glass houses.


What’s racist? Tell me exactly what’s racist about my opinion. I cant Point out your racist bullshite.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:39 pm to
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You don’t know what a theme is. You haven’t even mentioned 1.


I’ve mentioned them throughout this thread, and you’ve missed them all, you self loathing white supremacist.

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I’m calling you racist because you are.


Well you’re a self loathing white supremacist. The only thing you and David Duke disagree about is you think white people are inherently evil. You think everything about minorities as he does and need to be given a leg up since they can’t get jobs and roles for themselves.

I know you’re feeling guilty about the cross burning you did on someone’s front yard at the tender young age of 23, but you’re every bit as racist then as you are now and are simply guilt ridden by your life long opinion. Your apology mode assuming minorities are retarded and need your help does not make you any less racist.

How you perceive yourself:



Who you actually are:

This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:44 pm to
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You sound like a racist dweeb.


2nd time asking - where's your proof that I'm remotely racist. What have I said to lead you to that conclusion?

I'll wait.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Don’t deflect. Quote me saying back hobbits exist. It’s all fictional. This is a stylistic choice.


Then why cast them that way? Oh right, because you are worse than a racist and are a white supremacist and think minorities need to be given roles since they are too stupid to get it themselves. Just because you hate yourself for being such does not make you any better than Richard Spencer.

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Visceral doesn’t mean what you think it means.


OK, here’s the definition:

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relating to deep inward feelings rather than to the intellect.


Yeah, you’re telling me to ignore my intellect rather than your point blank racist thoughts on what you think black people writ large think about Lord of the Rings. It’s not their inner feelings, it’s your inner feelings, which are that anyone without white skin is inherently stupider than you are and somehow need your help.

And the Coens would agree that they were visceral in making MacBeth, which is fine so long as you’re open about it. You don’t come onto my property I know damn well what the author was going for, you lying self loathing white supremacist.

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What’s racist? Tell me exactly what’s racist about my opinion. I cant Point out your racist bullshite.


I go into quite a lot of detail in the previous post. You think everything the klan does is based in truth, and you hate yourself for it. You are a 10 out of 10 racist. Go frick yourself. Your father should have shot you against the wall.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:53 pm to
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2nd time asking - where's your proof that I'm remotely racist. What have I said to lead you to that conclusion?

I'll wait.


Oh he’ll just call us this when he openly admits there were no black hobbits because he thinks black people are stupid, retarded, and need his help. If they don’t want his help, Sammy will be the first person to call them an N-Bomb to their face.

If they don’t accept the help of the white savior who is racially superior to them and giving them a break, then they really are anything that would come out of Richard Spencer’s mouth. Sammy is worse than a racist and is an overt white supremacist even if he hates himself for being such.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:10 pm to


And by the way (hopefully the self loathing white supremacist retard takes his L) is this the best wardrobe we could have gotten for the Numenorians with 500 million dollars? Reminder this is like 166% the price of the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy and what they were able to produce:







EDIT: Seriously, Game of Thrones had way better costume design than that, and that’s how the Numenorians look? Are you fricking kidding me? Their wardrobe should look as good as the Elves in the original trilogy.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:25 pm to
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Then why cast them that way? Oh right, because you are worse than a racist and are a white supremacist and think minorities need to be given roles since they are too stupid to get it themselves. Just because you hate yourself for being such does not make you any better than Richard Spencer.


Ok so you’re going to just drop your claim that I’m saying black hobbits existed (hint no hobbits exist)

I imagine The actual reason is that it’s easier for black people to picture themselves in a world where they actually are depicted (even as elves and hobbits) making it a more immersive experience for black viewers and fans. Idk if all black people feel like they don’t belong in middle earth, but you definitely feel like they don’tz

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Yeah, you’re telling me to ignore my intellect rather than your point blank racist thoughts on what you think black people writ large think about Lord of the Rings.


You brought up the word visceral not me. You also used it in a context that didn’t make sense

2 I habe Never claimed to speak for all black people. I’ve said their presence in this show doesn’t ruin it FOR ME.

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And the Coens would agree that they were visceral in making MacBeth


I dont Think so. Also it was only Joel Coen. Not the Brothers. Just casting a black actor doesn’t make something visceral. Visceral isn’t the opposite of traditional or literal.

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You don’t come onto my property


Literally not your property. In any way.

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I know damn well what the author was going for


The author says he doesn’t like the “proposed domination of the author’s authority”

Tolkien is fine with us imagining a bit.

You’re literally arguing seperste but equal and calling me a white supremacist.



Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:33 pm to
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Ok so you’re going to just drop your claim that I’m saying black hobbits existed (hint no hobbits exist)


Oh frick off. You admitted it, David Duke.

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I imagine The actual reason is that it’s easier for black people to picture themselves in a world where they actually are depicted (even as elves and hobbits) making it a more immersive experience for black viewers and fans. Idk if all black people feel like they don’t belong in middle earth, but you definitely feel like they don’tz


So you don’t think that someone can identify with someone outside of their race. Keep doubling down, klansman.

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You brought up the word visceral not me. You also used it in a context that didn’t make sense


No it made sense in context.

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2 I habe Never claimed to speak for all black people. I’ve said their presence in this show doesn’t ruin it FOR ME.


But you’d be the first to call them the N-Bomb if they didn’t appreciate you fighting for them.

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I dont Think so. Also it was only Joel Coen. Not the Brothers. Just casting a black actor doesn’t make something visceral. Visceral isn’t the opposite of traditional or literal.


It was not supposed to be literal, you communist cocksucker.

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Literally not your property. In any way.


Again it’s Tolkien, but you, a self loathing white supremacist (I mean that by the way) think you know what’s best for the property.
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The author says he doesn’t like the “proposed domination of the author’s authority”

Tolkien is fine with us imagining a bit.

You’re literally arguing seperste but equal and calling me a white supremacist.


Yah huh. How many racial slurs could you get out of your mouth within a minute if a black person said what I have said (and there are many who agree with me)? I’m going to give you an under/over of 10 racist slurs in the course of a minute. You are a white supremacist. You are the worst of both worlds being a commie and a klannie. Go frick yourself.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:54 pm to
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2nd time asking - where's your proof that I'm remotely racist. What have I said to lead you to that conclusion?


You are too upset about black people being in your all white fantasy land.

This is literally white guy made about black neighbor fantasy franchise version.

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