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re: List the Plot Holes in Transformers 2(Obvious Spoilers)

Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:55 am to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:55 am to
Basically they go into the Smithonian, wake up a transformer that is an SR-71, and then they walk out of the Air and Space Hanger, they are in the national plane graveyard in Arizona.
Posted by Feed Me Popeyes
Baltimore, MD
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Basically they go into the Smithonian, wake up a transformer that is an SR-71, and then they walk out of the Air and Space Hanger, they are in the national plane graveyard in Arizona.


yeah that's it
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:14 pm to
Just because a movie is sci-fi does not mean all logic, rational thought, and decent dialog should be set aside. Suspension of disbelief does not mean suspension of taste or suspension of any criticism.

People that give a pass to Hollywood simply because a movie is a big budget summer film are part of the problem.

The person that came up with the term popcorn film should be sent to hell for eternal kicks to the crotch. A bad film is a bad film. Popcorn makes it no better.

A summer movie can be sci-fi and not have 11000 plot holes. Sloppy writing is sloppy writing no matter how much money or how many explosions you toss in a film.

For all the people that keep saying anyone that goes to a movie like this expecting better deserves what they get.

Nobody walks into a movie hoping it will be crap.

The first Transformers movie was not bad. The second one was a caricature of the first one.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5676 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:32 pm to
i thought it was a let down how the Constructicons were introduced. they did not show that the 5 bots that made Devastator were also individual robots. they just made him from 5 different pieces of construction equipment.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35710 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:33 pm to
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I am already incredibly sick of this movie, and I'm just typing questions about it. Sam resurrects Optimus, Optimus kills the Fallen, end of story, right?
Pretty close. Sam dies, though.

Really?
Yeah, for a little while. But then the Transformers in heaven send him back because he still has work to do.

frick you.
I'm serious.

frick you. There's no way.
It's true. The 6-7 Primes are there in the clouds like Mufasa's head in The Lion King, and tell Sam he's awesome and he needs to live again so he can bring Optimus back to life.

I may be ill.


I'll be expecting the same sort of bitching from this douchebag when the last Harry Potter is released.

Most of that rant is well founded, but some of it is just bitching. Why shouldn't some Transformers know how to spacebridge and others not? Does he run the Transforemers universe? Who is this dipstick to tell us how things are to work in Transformers universe? Why not just call out Spiderman or Superman dumbass?

What is also funny is that he had to have watched this movie like 8 times to go on that kind of rant about it.

This post was edited on 12/3/09 at 12:41 pm
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35710 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:35 pm to
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I could have gone without the jump from Washington DC to Arizona just by leaving a building.
Not trying to argue, but the Smithsonian they were in was actually 40 miles away from DC, even though they said they were going to DC, so it is still a major fail.

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my friend saw it and said there was a massive geography fail when they characters are in Jordan and then suddenly see the Egyptian Pyramids after running for a while. Apparently Israel and/or the Siani Desert don't exist. He said he LOL'ed in the theatre at the mistake, but "the mouth-breathers around him" probably thought it was perfectly fine
Yeah, I noticed this also in theaters. Major fail by the editing team.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35710 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:37 pm to
You all realize Star Trek had some serious plot holes in it also right?

Not trying to defend Transforemers 2, because it had some seriously bad moments. I just agree with Cocomo. I paid my 8 bucks, I was entertained, so BFD.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:45 pm to
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Not trying to argue, but the Smithsonian they were in was actually 40 miles away from DC, even though they said they were going to DC, so it is still a major fail.


You would be suprised how many people go to the Air and Space Museum and wonder where the hell the SR-71 is..

Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40954 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 12:54 pm to
Yes Trek has many plot holes but it was a better movie overall. Also I was so happy just to have Trek back on the big screen I was willing to overlook many of the plot holes.

Having said that there were several threads on here that listed all of the plot holes in Trek which I listed many.

Next Trek will need to have a better script.

Hell, plot holes or not Tformers made a bazillion dollars so T3 won't be too far off.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60108 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 1:31 pm to
Transformers 2, How it should have ended:


LINK
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155380 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Just because a movie is sci-fi does not mean all logic, rational thought, and decent dialog should be set aside. Suspension of disbelief does not mean suspension of taste or suspension of any criticism.

People that give a pass to Hollywood simply because a movie is a big budget summer film are part of the problem.

The person that came up with the term popcorn film should be sent to hell for eternal kicks to the crotch. A bad film is a bad film. Popcorn makes it no better.

A summer movie can be sci-fi and not have 11000 plot holes. Sloppy writing is sloppy writing no matter how much money or how many explosions you toss in a film.

For all the people that keep saying anyone that goes to a movie like this expecting better deserves what they get.

Nobody walks into a movie hoping it will be crap.

The first Transformers movie was not bad. The second one was a caricature of the first one.

We'll agree to disagree then. I agree with you, in principle, on a few things. But overall, Transformers 2 was made to make money and entertain. That's it. It wasn't made to be geographically consistent, or have no plot holes. It was a gigantic, corny, in your face explosion-fest. And it accomplished that, to the tune of over 833 million dollars at the box office.
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People that give a pass to Hollywood simply because a movie is a big budget summer film are part of the problem.

See, I agree with that, except with shite like Tf2. You knew going in exactly what you were going to get. So you donating your money to a movie that you knew would likely suck is the problem, not people who saw it to kick back and watch shite explode for two hours.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56175 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:15 pm to
The dialogue was absolutely ridiculously gay. It made you feel uncomfortable at times since they were trying to hard.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40954 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:18 pm to
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See, I agree with that, except with shite like Tf2. You knew going in exactly what you were going to get.


This is where you are dead wrong.

The first movie had a much more cohesive plot without half of the problems and random crap they did in the second movie.

How based on the first movie, am I led to believe the second movie would be so ridiculous as to be a caricature of the first movie?

I am sorry. I never walk into a movie expecting mind numbing sloppy writing nor will I ever watch a movie with such low expectations.

Once again, just because it is sci-fi does not give the writer, director and all involved a free pass to be sloppy.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85367 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:22 pm to
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You knew going in exactly what you were going to get. So you donating your money to a movie that you knew would likely suck is the problem, not people who saw it to kick back and watch shite explode for two hours.


I was hoping to be able to sit back and enjoy giant, alien robots blowing shite up, but what I got was giant robot balls, black ghetto robots, ghost robots, and massively huge plot holes that I couldn't get past.

Like Myth said, you can have an absurd story, and still follow basic plot lines. It's not that fricking hard.
This post was edited on 12/3/09 at 2:23 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155380 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:49 pm to
Transformers 2 was Transformers 1, just with a few more plot holes and more gay shite (like the ghetto cars, robot balls, pissing oil, pot brownies, etc.) crammed in to make it more over-the-top.

The first one was a huge cornball fest, had its own plot holes, and was largely presented in a "don't take it so serious" manner. The second one was exactly the same thing, just with more outlandish shite to try and top the first one.

Sure, some of it the mistakes are laughable. But it was exactly what I expected it to be. Maybe I just went in with the right expectations, who knows...but I will stand by my statements about Tf2 and those who didn't like it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:57 pm to
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I'll be expecting the same sort of bitching from this douchebag when the last Harry Potter is released.

Most of that rant is well founded, but some of it is just bitching. Why shouldn't some Transformers know how to spacebridge and others not? Does he run the Transforemers universe? Who is this dipstick to tell us how things are to work in Transformers universe? Why not just call out Spiderman or Superman dumbass?

What is also funny is that he had to have watched this movie like 8 times to go on that kind of rant about it.



SPOILERS for Harry Potter and Deathly Hallows








The difference is Harry go to purgatory, a realm within human concept. But Robot Heaven? Thats the stupidest shite ever. And if you've read the book, it is fairly obvious that Harry HAS to be killed in some way, and I think people in theaters would think the same thing. Sam didn't HAVE to die, and it just makes for an absolutely stupid plot point.
Posted by Babalugats
Middle Earth
Member since Jun 2009
3781 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 2:59 pm to
ghetto robots and robots with testicles
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Transformers 2 was Transformers 1, just with a few more plot holes and more gay shite (like the ghetto cars, robot balls, pissing oil, pot brownies, etc.) crammed in to make it more over-the-top.


This is your reasoning: Lets pretend we're at a restaurant and I had a pretty good burger and requested the same thing the next time, except this time they added shite, horse testicles, and a dead rat in my burger. Its inexcusable.
This post was edited on 12/3/09 at 3:05 pm
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35710 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 3:34 pm to
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quote:

People that give a pass to Hollywood simply because a movie is a big budget summer film are part of the problem.




See, I agree with that, except with shite like Tf2. You knew going in exactly what you were going to get. So you donating your money to a movie that you knew would likely suck is the problem, not people who saw it to kick back and watch shite explode for two hours.


Thank you. That was my biggest gripe last summer was not people saying how horrible T2 was or saying it sucked, it was movie snobs telling me that I was part of the problem with Hollywood.
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