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re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2"
Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:10 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:10 am to CocomoLSU
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but all they got "were a bunch of answering machines."
I guess they never bothered to leave a message. Also I pointed it about early in the thread (so about 2 years ago...) but how shitty was the cop? Knocks on the door a few times then says "welp, nobody here! I'm out".
I'm not sure the legality of this, but if the Mcallisters were certain that Kevin was home, could they not authorize a locksmith to enter their home (maybe with a policeman present as well) to check on him?
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:11 am to bigpetedatiga
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how absolutely disrespectful Kevin was to his mom.
This. My butthole still puckers a little bit when he calls his mom a dummy.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:20 am to WG_Dawg
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This. My butthole still puckers a little bit when he calls his mom a dummy.
Funny, one the AMC story notes last evening it mentioned that John Hughes was worried that Culkin overdid his portrayal of Kevin towards his family. He said he worried that Kevin was too disrespectful, until Hughes had kids of his own and realized Culkins' portrayal of Kevins' attitude was par for the course.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:39 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Ok, first of all, I have to see the story notes version. Are all the ones on AMC story notes?
Here's a few that I don't think have been mentioned, although I didn't read the whole thread.
HA1:It always bugged me how the old woman at the store just assumed he was going to run out of the store. "You have to pay for that here son!" He was 5 feet from the counter, maybe he was going to browse some more you bitter paranoid hag.
HA1: when marv comes in through the window, why does he stomp his bare feet down so hard? Makes no sense. Also, why doesn't he move the remaining ornaments and bulbs out of the way before walking over them?
HA2: one of my biggest problems with both movies but especially 2 was how harry and marv always just stood around and waited for something bad to happen. See the scene outside duncans toy chest when harry just stands on the board and basically waits for marv to jump on the other side. That cheap 5 gallon bucket wouldn't have held up to that either.
HA2: what kind of slope did that basement have that marv slides on the green goo like he's going down a water slide at 25 mph?
HA2: If Kevin is so smart that he can run around the seediest parts of NYC without getting killed, why isn't he smart enough to realize he got on the wrong plane and go to the police station and explain it all, instead of praying to the golden rockafeller center statue to magically bring his parents back.
HA2: Christmas morning…are the gifts all gender neutral, there's no tags on them so how do they know what they're supposed to be opening?
HA2: I want to know if he followed up with the bird lady in later years? Does he fly into NYC and take her to a diner as part of a new Christmas tradition?
HA2: The family obviously has money, they stay in probably what is a $10k a night room, thats conveniently vacant on Christmas, but freak out about a $1k room service bill. You're lucky he was smart enough to order room service and not starve to death.
HA2: Why didn't Kevin immediately say "He just bent over and called me a trout-sniffer under his breath. Did you guys see that?" But no, he waits until later and it seems like he's lying and he didn't fully explain himself.
I love this thread.
Here's a few that I don't think have been mentioned, although I didn't read the whole thread.
HA1:It always bugged me how the old woman at the store just assumed he was going to run out of the store. "You have to pay for that here son!" He was 5 feet from the counter, maybe he was going to browse some more you bitter paranoid hag.
HA1: when marv comes in through the window, why does he stomp his bare feet down so hard? Makes no sense. Also, why doesn't he move the remaining ornaments and bulbs out of the way before walking over them?
HA2: one of my biggest problems with both movies but especially 2 was how harry and marv always just stood around and waited for something bad to happen. See the scene outside duncans toy chest when harry just stands on the board and basically waits for marv to jump on the other side. That cheap 5 gallon bucket wouldn't have held up to that either.
HA2: what kind of slope did that basement have that marv slides on the green goo like he's going down a water slide at 25 mph?
HA2: If Kevin is so smart that he can run around the seediest parts of NYC without getting killed, why isn't he smart enough to realize he got on the wrong plane and go to the police station and explain it all, instead of praying to the golden rockafeller center statue to magically bring his parents back.
HA2: Christmas morning…are the gifts all gender neutral, there's no tags on them so how do they know what they're supposed to be opening?
HA2: I want to know if he followed up with the bird lady in later years? Does he fly into NYC and take her to a diner as part of a new Christmas tradition?
HA2: The family obviously has money, they stay in probably what is a $10k a night room, thats conveniently vacant on Christmas, but freak out about a $1k room service bill. You're lucky he was smart enough to order room service and not starve to death.
HA2: Why didn't Kevin immediately say "He just bent over and called me a trout-sniffer under his breath. Did you guys see that?" But no, he waits until later and it seems like he's lying and he didn't fully explain himself.
I love this thread.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:42 am to VanRIch
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what kind of slope did that basement have that marv slides on the green goo like he's going down a water slide at 25 mph?
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why isn't he smart enough to realize he got on the wrong plane and go to the police station and explain it all
Seriously. "I got on the wrong flight, my parents are in blank and they're staying at blank. Their names are blank. Help me"
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:04 am to VanRIch
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HA2: If Kevin is so smart that he can run around the seediest parts of NYC without getting killed, why isn't he smart enough to realize he got on the wrong plane and go to the police station and explain it all, instead of praying to the golden rockafeller center statue to magically bring his parents back.
Kevin fully realizes this, he just doesn't really care to see his family again, and I can't blame him. They've abandoned him twice in one year and not really given a damn about it. Seriously, within 2 minutes no one really gives a damn that Kevin is there. He's just there for the entertainment of being the butt monkey and to gang up on. The McCallisters are not all that worried about Kevin himself, they're just worried with what the neighbors and their colleagues will think, despite the fact that everyone they have met entirely despises them and their family.
Once Kevin has gotten his rocks off by brutally and near lethally torturing 2 criminals who dare steal from his favorite toy store, Kevin's about ready to go back, but really wanted to see that big damn tree before he left and went back to his parents willingly.
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HA2: Why didn't Kevin immediately say "He just bent over and called me a trout-sniffer under his breath. Did you guys see that?" But no, he waits until later and it seems like he's lying and he didn't fully explain himself.
Because the conversation would have gone something like this.
Kevin: Did you guys just hear that? He just loudly whispered that I was a trout sniffer?
Mom: Now Buzz, don't you have something to say to Kevin again?
Buzz: Kevin I'm sorry for just calling you a trout-sniffer....you stupid cocksucker...
Kevin: And now he just called me a cocksucker.
Mom: Kevin!!! How dare you use that word.
Uncle Frank: And no one likes a tattletale, you fricking weasel.
Kevin: This family fricking sucks. Can't you all see that I'm ruthlessly ganged up on and ignored in every other instance.
Dad: Shut up Kevin, you know that's not true. Now march up those stairs to the attic, where we conveniently forgot about you last year.
Kevin: Go frick yourselves, I'm calling child services.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 10:17 am
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:14 am to OMLandshark
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They've abandoned him twice in one year
I would hardly call the 2nd one abandoning him. His dumbass brought that on himself. And from their perspective, you're at your destination and the only thing you know about where your kid is is you last saw him at the airport.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:18 am to WG_Dawg
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I would hardly call the 2nd one abandoning him. His dumbass brought that on himself. And from their perspective, you're at your destination and the only thing you know about where your kid is is you last saw him at the airport.
No, if there's one kid you need to keep up with at all costs, it's Kevin. There is absolutely no excuse for them leaving Kevin behind. Plus they don't even realize until about 3 hours later when they were getting their checked bags. They're terrible people.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:36 am to OMLandshark
Okay, more on the pizza thing...I completely forgot that early in the movie, the pizza that everyone was eating was delivered. And by the same kid actually:
That's ten pizzas, and the total he tells Joe Pesci (and then later Uncle Frank) is $122.50. So that's $12.25 per pizza. I guess if we still go with the "upscale Chicago suburb pizza joint can charge more" theory, then there wouldn't have been any deals. So $12.25 per pie (of different toppings, one of which we know was a plain cheese) compared to Kevin's $11.80 plain cheese seems about right.
Also, it always kinda bugged me that once Kevin and Marley have their discussion in the church, that Kevin didn't explain shite to him about what was going on. I mean, he lives next fricking door, and is clearly a responsible adult, so why wouldn't you be like "Hey, so these two assholes are supposed to come rob me tonight around nine. Think you can help me with that?" I mean, I know Kevin may already have some distrust for the police since he made the connection of the cop (Harry) in the beginning to Robber Harry later on. But still..
That brings me to another point that may have been discussed earlier in the thread...when Kevin and Marley are having their talk in the church, why is Marley such a dick to Kevin? Marley clearly knows why Kevin always acts so afraid of him...he even says specifically that he knows there are lots of rumors around about him, but that none of them are true. Also, Kevin is 8, so kids believe shite like that, so you can't be mad at him for believing that shite. So anyway, Marley explains his situation with his son and why he's afraid to call him, and Kevin makes the analogy that he shouldn't be scared to call his son because he's always been scared of the basement, but one day he confronted that fear and now it's not so bad and he realized that he's been worrying about it this whole time for nothing. And what does that a-hole Marley say to him in response..? "What's your point?" Um, a-hole...his point is very clearly that you're worrying and being afraid to call your son and you should stop being such a fricking pussy about it and pick up the goddamn telephone.
Also, if anybody wants to watch the movie, or needs it for some analysis, here it is. And it loads pretty fast too, so you can let it sit for a couple of minutes and then go to any point in the movie for reference.
Also, at the end when the family gets back and Kevin tells them he went shopping, it always pisses me off that Buzz is like "Shopping..? He doesn't know how to tie his shoe, and he went shopping?" He's 8 years old, Buzz...I'm sure he's been able to tie his shoe for about 5 years now, dick.
That's ten pizzas, and the total he tells Joe Pesci (and then later Uncle Frank) is $122.50. So that's $12.25 per pizza. I guess if we still go with the "upscale Chicago suburb pizza joint can charge more" theory, then there wouldn't have been any deals. So $12.25 per pie (of different toppings, one of which we know was a plain cheese) compared to Kevin's $11.80 plain cheese seems about right.
Also, it always kinda bugged me that once Kevin and Marley have their discussion in the church, that Kevin didn't explain shite to him about what was going on. I mean, he lives next fricking door, and is clearly a responsible adult, so why wouldn't you be like "Hey, so these two assholes are supposed to come rob me tonight around nine. Think you can help me with that?" I mean, I know Kevin may already have some distrust for the police since he made the connection of the cop (Harry) in the beginning to Robber Harry later on. But still..
That brings me to another point that may have been discussed earlier in the thread...when Kevin and Marley are having their talk in the church, why is Marley such a dick to Kevin? Marley clearly knows why Kevin always acts so afraid of him...he even says specifically that he knows there are lots of rumors around about him, but that none of them are true. Also, Kevin is 8, so kids believe shite like that, so you can't be mad at him for believing that shite. So anyway, Marley explains his situation with his son and why he's afraid to call him, and Kevin makes the analogy that he shouldn't be scared to call his son because he's always been scared of the basement, but one day he confronted that fear and now it's not so bad and he realized that he's been worrying about it this whole time for nothing. And what does that a-hole Marley say to him in response..? "What's your point?" Um, a-hole...his point is very clearly that you're worrying and being afraid to call your son and you should stop being such a fricking pussy about it and pick up the goddamn telephone.
Also, if anybody wants to watch the movie, or needs it for some analysis, here it is. And it loads pretty fast too, so you can let it sit for a couple of minutes and then go to any point in the movie for reference.
Also, at the end when the family gets back and Kevin tells them he went shopping, it always pisses me off that Buzz is like "Shopping..? He doesn't know how to tie his shoe, and he went shopping?" He's 8 years old, Buzz...I'm sure he's been able to tie his shoe for about 5 years now, dick.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 10:44 am
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:41 am to CocomoLSU
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Marley explains his situation with his son and why he's afraid to call him, and Kevin makes the analogy that he shouldn't be scared to call his son because he's always beens cared of the basement, but one day he confronted that fear and now it's not so bad and he realized that he's been worrying about it this whole time for nothing. And what does that a-hole marley say to him in response..? "What's your point?" Um, a-hole...his point is very clearly that you're worrying and being afraid to call your son and you should stop being such a fricking pussy about it and pick up the goddamn telephone.
I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure you made almost the exact same post on like page 4.
MATERIAL RECYCLER!!!!
ETA: I stand corrected, it was Maximus on page 11.
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How stupid is that old man? He tells Kevin he is afraid to call his son for fear that his son will reject him. Then Kevin gives him a 5 minute speech about conquering the fear of his basement and the old frick replies, "Whats your point?" What the frick do you think his point is, shovel hands?
When this got it's 2013 bump I read through it and thought I saw something similar
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:41 am to CocomoLSU
quote:Buzz should worry more about his boy wearing a blond wig of a girlfriend than his little brother's shopping capabilities
Also, at the end when the family gets back and Kevin tells them he went shopping, it always pisses me off that Buzz is like "Shopping..? He doesn't know how to tie his shoe, and he went shopping?" He's 8 years old, Buzz...I'm sure he's been able to tie his shoe for about 5 years now, dick.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:45 am to WG_Dawg
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I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure you made almost the exact same post on like page 4.
MATERIAL RECYCLER!!!!
Thus the:
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That brings me to another point that may have been discussed earlier in the thread...
And if it was me that said something, that just goes to show you how much it bothered me that Marley is basically a dick for no reason at that point.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:45 am to CocomoLSU
I'm not criticizing you at all, it's just I've read this thread way too many times and I thought it sounded familiar
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:46 am to WG_Dawg
And honestly, there's probably nothing left at this point that we haven't already ripped to shreds about this movie.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:55 am to WG_Dawg
Nobody likes my mafia theory??
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:58 am to Pilot Tiger
does no one else have an issue with the old people at the airport taking full advantage of a bad situation? Look I get wanting a little something for your inconvenience, but that old bitch basically took everything including the lint in her pocket
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:58 am to WG_Dawg
Oh I know...I'm not serious.
However, I did go back through the thread and didn't see me talking about Marley being a dick at all. I may have missed something though I guess..
BUT.
Let's check out your post from page two:
And your post near the top of this page:
BOOM.
However, I did go back through the thread and didn't see me talking about Marley being a dick at all. I may have missed something though I guess..
BUT.
Let's check out your post from page two:
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Lets' also not forget Kevin was a little shithead himself. As a kid I would literally cringe when he's at the stair landing and says to his mom "I am upstairs, dummy". I would never even IMAGINE saying something like that to my mother.
And your post near the top of this page:
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This. My butthole still puckers a little bit when he calls his mom a dummy.
BOOM.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:59 am to WG_Dawg
The over analyzing of my favorite childhood movies is one of the reasons I love this board. I've read this thread each of the last 3 years 
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:03 am to BilJ
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does no one else have an issue with the old people at the airport taking full advantage of a bad situation? Look I get wanting a little something for your inconvenience, but that old bitch basically took everything including the lint in her pocket
I noticed that last night.
$500
Pocket translator
2 first class seats (when they originally had coach)
A Rolex watch (possibly fake...who can tell? but they were wealthy though)
An expensive-looking ring
Some earrings (likely also expensive)
But to be fair, it was just the old lady...the husband was like "Nah, she's got enough shite...let's go."
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:05 am to CocomoLSU
yeah but she gives that final plea and then they make the moment come off as if it were some nice Christmas gesture on their part. They made out like bandits on that deal
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