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re: Let’s face it, GoT has gone over the top with the feminism
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:12 am to blueboy
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:12 am to blueboy
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You people act like we're not dealing with people who want the world to be a socialist matriarchy. If you doubt that, simply research it.
Or we are dealing with people who want the gender that makes up half of the entire population to be represented equally.
People with your mentality sound like spoiled children that are crying they have to share some of their toys while having a closet full they aren't even using.
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:59 am to 13SaintTiger
This is worse than the Willie Snead over Sammy Watkins take and that’s saying something.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:24 am to 13SaintTiger
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It’s madness. Somehow all of sudden all of these women become clever, smart, tacticians, and strong rulers.
This is clearly what GRRM had in mind.
Dany is self explanatory, Cersei has been ruling KL pretty much since she offed Robert, and Sansa was clearly being groomed by LF to be installed somewhere (maybe not WF but probably).
None of this is a show creation.
And who says all the women are “strong leaders”? Cersei is a psychotic that has been on a self destructive path since the beginning, Lysa was a goddamned moonbat who took a deserved flight out the moon door, Dany was nothing without Khal Drogo and has relied on men like Jorah, Barristan, Daario, and Tyrion to advise, guide, and defend her, and Sansa needed Tyrion and then LF to save her from Joffrey and Cersei, and even in the show needs Bran to give her the push to deal with LF.
Arya, and I know I’m in the minority here, has never been my favorite character in either the book or show, but she was clearly meant to be a major player by GRRM.
The only females that have really been given too much significance in the series imo are Brienne and Missandei, which is fine with me because she is fine as fricking frog hair.
Jon is still the biggest focus of the story imo, Bran is some all powerful mystic, The Hound is about to have his moment to shine against The Mountainstein, Jamie, the best character in the book, hasn’t been given enough justice but hopefully that starts to change this week.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:39 am to mindbreaker
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Or we are dealing with people who want the gender that makes up half of the entire population to be represented equally.
OP and premise of this thread is dumb.
However if you think current feminists just want equality you're naive as hell.
That shite died with the third wave. 
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:59 pm to mindbreaker
quote:Or I'm someone who's been around politics and political life for much of my adulthood and have actually sat and listened to people talk about the ideal, desired society they want to live in.
People with your mentality sound like spoiled children that are crying they have to share some of their toys while having a closet full they aren't even using.
Many modern socialists want a socialist matriarchy. Not shared, one that is ruled by women in a harmonious, marxist system. You being unaware of that speaks more to your ignorance than it does to any perceived childishness on your part.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:39 pm to 13SaintTiger
They’ve positioned the women as villains or potential villains(-Cersi, Dany and even Sansa)with white men destined to save the world.
So what are we talking about?
So what are we talking about?
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:59 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Arya, and I know I’m in the minority here, has never been my favorite character in either the book or show,
Same here. Don’t really like her story line.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:15 am to blueboy
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Many modern socialists want a socialist matriarchy. Not shared, one that is ruled by women in a harmonious, marxist system. You being unaware of that speaks more to your ignorance than it does to any perceived childishness on your part.
All this up here children. This is some prime grade A bullshite. Take a good look you don't see stuff like this everyday.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 4:38 am to blueboy
The quickest way to suck all of the fun out of anything is to put a woman in charge of it. Hell, women (and the early version of soy boys) were the ones behind prohibition. I'd gladly welcome Skynet before I'd live in a matriarchal socialist world.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 7:07 am to cable
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The quickest way to suck all of the fun out of anything is to put a woman in charge of it. Hell, women (and the early version of soy boys) were the ones behind prohibition. I'd gladly welcome Skynet before I'd live in a matriarchal socialist world.
You must have an incredibly small penis.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:03 am to mindbreaker
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All this up here children. This is some prime grade A bullshite. Take a good look you don't see stuff like this everyday.
I love it when ignorant poeple trumpet their ignorance throughout the town square. Marx and Engels only wrote extensively about it.
This one wants us to be ruled by lesbians
Also
CULTURAL MARXISM PRODUCES MATRIARCHY
I told you it was easily searchable.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:16 am to blueboy
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Marx and Engels only wrote extensively about it.
This one wants us to be ruled by lesbians
Also
CULTURAL MARXISM PRODUCES MATRIARCHY
Just read these.
1. The writer of the article notes that Marx and Engels acknowledged the matriarchal leadership of hunter gatherer tribes. Does not argue in any way for a return to matriarchy.
2. Is clearly an intellectual exercise in interpreting one book through one theory. Its interest is in The Neutered Mother's author.
3. This is a men's rights website that cites no sources, uses alarmist language and has a flimsy, presumptive premise to begin with. You should ashamed for trying to use this as proof of anything other than your gullibility in trusting shite on the internet.
Everything and every viewpoint is easily searchable. Grow up.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:51 am to Jay Are
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2. Is clearly an intellectual exercise
So was Marxism.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:56 am to Philzilla2k
He’s a troll. Claimed to have watched Captain Marvel 3 times even though he abhors it.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:02 am to Centinel
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So was Marxism.
Is that zinger supposed to make me reevaluate something? Reading a book through the lens of queer theory is not the same as Marxism. Intellectual exercises are not all equal. That article is well-written and researched from the book in question, but it's the high-brow version of an idiotic message board thread like this one.
Just to be clear. I didn't refute blueboy's claim. I don't pretend to know enough about Marxism's relationship with matriarchy to do that. I suspect blueboy doesn't either. I called out his "proof" as the BS it is. If he has actual sources that connect Marxist agenda to an eventual matriarchy, I will read them, as I did with the crap he already posted.
And, actually, the second article was interesting; it just didn't claim what blueboy said it did.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:03 am to blueboy
all you did was prove you can google things that fit your confirmation bias. None of that represents thinking and goals of the majority of any group in this country.
this is fear mongering 101.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:07 pm to blueboy
quote:This one is my favorite.
CULTURAL MARXISM PRODUCES MATRIARCHY
You're the kind of person who not only reads "Return Of Kings" but cites it as some kind of credible source.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:10 pm to mindbreaker
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None of that represents thinking and goals of the majority of any group in this country.
It does fourth wave feminists. I mean they're pretty vocal and up front about it.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:18 pm to Centinel
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I mean they're pretty vocal and up front about it.
Fourth wave feminism seems to be more about calling for justice equal pay and assault issues. Both were huge issues in the #MeToo movement. Abolishing patriarchy, as it applies to discrepancies in pay and treatment, is not a call for matriarchy.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:27 pm to Jay Are
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Abolishing patriarchy, as it applies to discrepancies in pay and treatment, is not a call for matriarchy.
You're only paying attention to half the conversation.
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