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Let's discuss the knot (The Prestige) *spoilers*
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:11 pm
Angier is obsessed with the knot that Borden tied on his wife, which led to her death.
Would they not have been able to identify the knot after the fact? Or did they identify it and Angier just wants to hear Borden confess that he didn't tie a slip knot?
Also, when asked about the knot during the catch the bullet trick and at his wife's funeral, Borden says he doesn't know which he tied. I believe he is telling the truth. I think Fallon was on stage that particular night, and Fallon tied the knot his way because Borden was the one that got scolded the previous night.
Weigh in, you magnificent bastards.
Would they not have been able to identify the knot after the fact? Or did they identify it and Angier just wants to hear Borden confess that he didn't tie a slip knot?
Also, when asked about the knot during the catch the bullet trick and at his wife's funeral, Borden says he doesn't know which he tied. I believe he is telling the truth. I think Fallon was on stage that particular night, and Fallon tied the knot his way because Borden was the one that got scolded the previous night.
Weigh in, you magnificent bastards.
This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 9:13 pm
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:14 pm to Flair Chops
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I believe he is telling the truth. I think Fallon was on stage that particular night, and Fallon tied the knot his way because Borden was the one that got scolded the previous night
I always thought this, and never even thought about it another way. There was also that exchange where his wife was insinting she could get out of a slip knot and Algier insisted it was too dangerous. Maybe it was an unspoken, "let's give it a shot" when Borden tied the knot.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:20 pm to Flair Chops
The Langford double will hold!
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:23 pm to Displaced
quote:Well it was unspoken, but it was on screen. They give each other a look and he unties part of the knot then reties it.
There was also that exchange where his wife was insinting she could get out of a slip knot and Algier insisted it was too dangerous. Maybe it was an unspoken, "let's give it a shot" when Borden tied the knot.
This is on memory, so I may be wrong.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:27 pm to TiGeRTeRRoR
quote:that's exactly how it went down
Well it was unspoken, but it was on screen. They give each other a look and he unties part of the knot then reties it.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:29 pm to Displaced
Yeah I would think most agree that he honestly didn't remember. Saying he didn't remember didn't benefit him any. Algier basically felt the same hatred towards him with the "I don't remember" line as much as he would with a "I tied the different knot answer." The only way to make Algier happy is to tell him he didn't mix it up. He knew that and could have said he didn't change it to benefit himself but he didn't because he honestly didn't remember.
I also agree that it was a mutual agreement between the two to tie the other knot. She was confident that it would work and the look they gave each other while on stage kind of told you they were going the other route.
I also agree that it was a mutual agreement between the two to tie the other knot. She was confident that it would work and the look they gave each other while on stage kind of told you they were going the other route.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:30 pm to TiGeRTeRRoR
Nope. I was right. Watch at :14 seconds. This is after they've discussed her escaping the other knot.
LINK
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:34 pm to TiGeRTeRRoR
But to answer the original question
I really think Borden didn't remember too. The thought of him being responsible for her death could've been subconsciously blocked from his mind.
quote:I'd guess the latter.
Would they not have been able to identify the knot after the fact? Or did they identify it and Angier just wants to hear Borden confess that he didn't tie a slip knot?
I really think Borden didn't remember too. The thought of him being responsible for her death could've been subconsciously blocked from his mind.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:48 pm to TiGeRTeRRoR
Right...here we go.
He's a magician not some audience rube...
Damn well straight he knows what not he tied!!!!!!
...well, his brother knows...the one who tied the knot...and he never told his twin.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 10:08 pm to TiGeRTeRRoR
quote:This, or the idea that he and his twin never discussed it.
I really think Borden didn't remember too. The thought of him being responsible for her death could've been subconsciously blocked from his mind.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:13 pm to Flair Chops
You know like in Fight Club they give you those early clues about who Tyler Durden is...even those little spliced frames...that splash across...
The knot affair was the first little clue that they were two different people that only really makes sense until after the fact.
The knot affair was the first little clue that they were two different people that only really makes sense until after the fact.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:19 pm to Zamoro10
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...well, his brother knows...the one who tied the knot...and he never told his twin.
That's the way I always took it. The twin that tied the knot was not the one at the funeral, and he truly didn't know when Angier asked him.
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:46 pm to DanglingFury
God damn, I've watched this movie about 5 times and it never occurred to me which of the two tied the knot (or that it even mattered). That's a pretty significant aspect of the film, and I never even thought about it. Seriously, one of my top 10 of all time, ahead of Inception and Memento.
This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 3/21/12 at 7:36 am to THRILLHO
quote:nolan fan, eh?
one of my top 10 of all time, ahead of Inception and Memento.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:26 am to Flair Chops
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one of my top 10 of all time, ahead of Inception and Memento.
nolan fan, eh?
Nolan does make movies with incredible replay value.
I've watched Memento and The Prestige at least 5-7 times each, maybe more.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:50 am to Enigma
quote:no doubt. i've watched the prestige at least 5 times and i didn't see it for the first time until last fall
Nolan does make movies with incredible replay value.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:15 am to THRILLHO
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God damn, I've watched this movie about 5 times and it never occurred to me which of the two tied the knot (or that it even mattered). That's a pretty significant aspect of the film, and I never even thought about it.
I'm right there with you. I always thought he truly didn't know which knot was tied, but I never considered that he didn't know because he wasn't the one who tied it...and I've seen The Prestige AT LEAST 12 times.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:24 am to DvlsAdvocat
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That's the way I always took it. The twin that tied the knot was not the one at the funeral, and he truly didn't know when Angier asked him.
yeah that's what i thought too.
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