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re: Keep politics off this board...thanks...

Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:00 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:00 am to
The political board is kinda off the rails though. You have to have a set opinion or you can't make any points there.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:16 am to
I feel like people can't separate social commentary with political stance anymore and that has become a huge issue.

For example the Acolytes draws parallel to the Jedi and cops and makes a point to say the Jedi are abusive of their power. That is social commentary, one that posters are free to disagree with and be upset that the director would use Star Wars to push their message that cops are bad. It becomes political when you start blaming the director for being a liberal loon and start talking about how all Democrats are pedos. That has nothing to do with the show anymore.

Some posters do a fantastic job of saying "I don't like the trend of LGBT themes in shows because I don't agree with that lifestyle" and keeping politics out of it. But too many immediately follow it up with "the left is using it to indoctrinate our kids!" While that certainly can be a discussion for this board, it needs to be it's own topic and not what ever thread devolves into that has any "woke" element.

At least that is my hope of what this new rule means.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16570 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:45 am to
I don’t know what’s worse, this or the new Mardi Gras rules.

Politics are part of many entertaining stories and as long as the subject keeps to the topics discussed in the movie, it should be here. Those weirdos on the poli board won’t like movie discussions moved over there either.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:54 am to
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I was a poster that requested this and take complete ownership


Posted by ThoseGuys
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Member since Nov 2012
2627 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:05 am to
Chicken said if the movie/TV is political by nature it can be discussed. So a thread about the movie "Civil War" can have politics discussed in it as long it relates to the movie.

But if someone starts going on a rant about politics in a thread about Bluey, yeah that's unneeded. And if you are someone that thinks everyone wants to hear (or needs to hear) your political beliefs while we're talking about Bluey, then you are the problem.

*Edit*
I clearly read too quickly while at work. I thought Chicken said it was ok to discuss here if it was political by nature but the poster has asked if it needed to be moved to PT board. Wow I don't agree with that.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 8:25 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:14 am to
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yes


So no discussion about at movies?

What about movies about the Cold War, which was completely political?

Are movies about MLK being assassinated ok? What about movies about the Civil Rights movement?

Where is this stupid line drawn?

Are Borat films okay but not Matt Walsh films?
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 8:17 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:15 am to
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was a poster that requested this and take complete ownership. Feel free to put me on the DV list, etc


Granted, you absolute piece of garbage.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:19 am to
I believe his point is that if you only want to discuss the politics and not the movie itself, take it to the political board.

Your examples are all historical in nature. I'm sure that is fine. Just don't dominate the discussion with the politics of today.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:21 am to
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I believe his point is that if you only want to discuss the politics and not the movie itself, take it to the political board.



I believe his point is related to removing the thread about Matt Walsh's film from this board around this same time this thread was made.

quote:

Your examples are all historical in nature. I'm sure that is fine. Just don't dominate the discussion with the politics of today.


Unfortunately, you are incorrect. If Matt Walsh's films is not allowed on this board, then there are a whole lot of threads that need to be wacked.

ETA: Like this one: LINK

Exact same type of film, just from a different side of the aisle.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 8:23 am
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:22 am to
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. It becomes political when you start blaming the director for being a liberal loon and start talking about how all Democrats are pedos.


I think discussing the director and the themes they are inserting into films/shows is proper movie board discussion. I havent seen that slide into "all democrats are pedos" but it wouldnt shock me if i saw that in a post.

But also, many viewers want to know if a show or movie has too many woke themes because we dont want to watch that shite. That is one of the first criteria i have for a show. Is it woke bullshite? If so, no thanks. And i appreciate the board helping identify those shows for me.

The problem here is with a handful of posters who get into the same pissing match over and over. There are several, maybe even a lot, of franchises that have turned very woke and alienated fans. Those fans are passionate and angry. But there are always two or three posters who want to defend Disney and call the critics a bunch of bigots. Then the bickering back and forth starts.

But that is the current state of movie and tv discussion throughout the internet. Its not a tigerdroppings problem. Its a hollywood problem. It what most discussions devolve into because that is what hollywood is doing 85% of the time.

Personally i think we should be allowed to discuss whatever we like or dont like about a movie or show, and if somebody doesnt know how to post properly they should be banned. But you cant seperate movies and politics completely. Hollywood has been on a mission since 2016 to weave politics into as much screen time as they can. Its not the fault of the TD posters for noticing.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 8:24 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37185 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:23 am to
You could just simplify things by moving the Acolyte discussion to the Politics board
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:26 am to
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That is one of the first criteria i have for a show. Is it woke bullshite?


Honestly, this board will die if these things cannot be discussed here. If we can't discuss a film's content, there's no reason to discuss a film.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 8:26 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:27 am to
Did you really just bump a 4 year old thread to make that point? Kinda weak.

Posted by Deep Purple Haze
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:32 am to
wyd
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:41 am to
What if the post is about something like "West Wing" or "Veep"?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:46 am to
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Did you really just bump a 4 year old thread to make that point? Kinda weak.


Of course. Isn't it relevant to this discussion that political films have always been discussed on this board, where they belong?

Of course it is.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63420 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:52 am to
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Well we can never talk about Marvel, Disney, or Star Wars ever again.

Or literally anything else. Hollywood hacks weave left wing politics into everything they produce now. It's all they know how to do.

Might as well just delete the board.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18090 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:54 am to
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this board will die if these things cannot be discussed here. If we can't discuss a film's content, there's no reason to discuss a film


We can take politics out of film discussion when Hollywood takes politics out of film. Simple as that.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37953 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:56 am to
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The political board is kinda off the rails though. You have to have a set opinion or you can't make any points there.
Which is why we don't want that discussion here, because then this board goes off the rails. You're not going to attract even semi-intelligent new members if their first experience here is seeing five threads about how "leftist" a particular Disney+ series is, taking up the top of the front page.

And yeah, poli-boarders do come here to post because here they can be the shitty fish in the clean pond, and not get lost in the non-stop screaming that is the poli-board.

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