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re: Justice League: Nolan, Goyer, Snyder...
Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
People who watched Immortals
If those people exist
If those people exist
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:54 pm to Sentrius
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Bruce Wayne has to be Batman in a JL movie. No way around that
While I do like the different angle Batman Beyond took, I wouldn't want that scenario to be Batman's first JL live action introduction.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:55 pm to RollTide1987
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What people are assuming is that, if this all does indeed come to fruition, Christian Bale will be playing the same Bruce Wayne/Batman from The Dark Knight Trilogy.
That doesn't necessarily have to be true.
It doesn't necessarily have to be true...but it is. Sure...you could cast the same actor in the same role but pretend he's really a DIFFERENT Batman...but is that really going to fly?
I mean...you can pull that off with voice actors playing the same role...think Kevin Conroy doing Batman's voice in a ton of animated shows and movies even though they cross stories and animators...but live action? That would just be inviting confusion...and you'd be bringing in a guy nearly his 40's to play Batman for what you'd have to be hoping would be a multi movie deal both for JL movies AND Batman stand alone flicks.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How many people really known Henry Cavill outside of those people who watched the Tudors?
Any film buff worth his salt recognized him from The Count of Monte Cristo.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:58 pm to schexyoung
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While I do like the different angle Batman Beyond took,
I would love this as a stand alone film but first let's just get a Justice League movie off the ground first and see if it's successful. Then warner will definitely know where to go from that.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 12:58 pm to Murray
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I could go on all day gentlemen. It really just comes down to personal preference and I'm willing to bet your preference will change as we see more and more shared universe movies where other heroes don't show up in each others movies.
It's more than not referencing any other superheroes...Nolan's universe goes out of its way to be as real as possible. That alone makes it a place where if suddenly Superman came slamming down onto the pavement from out of the sky everyone would shite their pants...including Bats. He doesn't belong in what Nolan made.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:01 pm to Murray
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Any film buff worth his salt recognized him from The Count of Monte Cristo.
And therefore he's up to playing Superman?
If you'd poll people coming out of theaters now seeing trailers for MoS, I'd bet good money most people have no idea who this "newcomer" is, and most will be fricking shocked he's British.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:04 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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He doesn't belong in what Nolan made.
Some of you guy's seem to be acting awfully close-minded about the possibilities but I do understand where you're coming from.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:05 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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And therefore he's up to playing Superman?
If you'd poll people coming out of theaters now seeing trailers for MoS, I'd bet good money most people have no idea who this "newcomer" is, and most will be fricking shocked he's British.
I was joking man. I've seen Monte Cristo quite a few times and still didn't recognize he was the same guy when announced as the future Man of Steel.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:17 pm to Murray
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Some of you guy's seem to be acting awfully close-minded about the possibilities but I do understand where you're coming from.
Eh...I just messing around. I don't see it as a possibility at all, so I'm not all that concerned.
The problem for DC and Warner's is that Marvel beat them to the punch with how marvelously they set up their franchises...and all of that hinged on Iron Man being great and Downey great in it. When that worked, it was on.
The same thing COULD happen with DC, but it would have to start with MoS, not with what Nolan already did with his trilogy in my opinion. You follow up the news Supes with a rebooted Batman that makes a reference or two to Metropolis, or Superman, or other heroes, etc...allow it room to potentially exist in a universe that will eventually have to deal with the biggest and baddest things out there, rather than just small time hoodlums and local crime.
Plus, I may be one of the few that never really liked Bale as Batman, so I'd be open to casting a newcomer on that alone.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:23 pm to MI LSU
If JGL had been revealed as Dick Grayson instead of some schmo named Robin, I could see a film in which Bale, as Bruce Wayne, passes the torch to JGL, as Dick Grayson, who takes up the mantle in the Justice League. They could then spin it off into a Nightwing thing if they wanted. But Nolan fricked it up, imo. Granted, Nightwing/Robin doesn't have to be Dick Grayson, but it would piss me off if some rando was named as Batman/Nightwing/Robin. But whatever. They'll figure it out.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:25 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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The same thing COULD happen with DC, but it would have to start with MoS, not with what Nolan already did with his trilogy in my opinion. You follow up the news Supes with a rebooted Batman that makes a reference or two to Metropolis, or Superman, or other heroes, etc...allow it room to potentially exist in a universe that will eventually have to deal with the biggest and baddest things out there, rather than just small time hoodlums and local crime.
FYI..there is a reference to Gotham in Superman Returns
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:27 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I'd have never pegged Chris Hemsworth as Thor, but that dude's Thor now. Doesn't have to be a known commodity
Chris Hemsworth was a rising star though. He wasn't an unknown, especially within Hollywood itself. Plus he had known commodities like Natalie Portman and Anthony Hopkins starring opposite him. Christopher Reeve was a complete unknown in both Hollywood and Main Street USA. Reeve, however, was backed up by an all-star cast that featured Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman. You need star power.
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How many people really known Henry Cavill outside of those people who watched the Tudors?
More than knew who Brandon Routh was when they announced him as the lead in Superman Returns. Cavill is a rising star, just as Hemsworth was before he was cast as Thor, and just as Bale was before he was cast as Batman.
This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:27 pm to udtiger
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FYI..there is a reference to Gotham in Superman Returns
Yep. Back when they thought Batman v. Superman was going to happen. You can also see a reference to this dead project in I Am Legend.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:27 pm to LoveThatMoney
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I could see a film in which Bale, as Bruce Wayne, passes the torch to JGL, as Dick Grayson
Do you mean you would want to see? If so, I'm with you there as Dick's recent run as Batman in the books was the best Batman I've seen in a long time.
Could you see? Could you really see WB making a Batman movie without Bruce Wayne as Batman? I can not. Financially speaking, the studio head's would have to be full retard to do that.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:31 pm to Murray
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Could you see? Could you really see WB making a Batman movie without Bruce Wayne as Batman? I can not. Financially speaking, the studio head's would have to be full retard to do that.
If they went with continuing the universe as the dude in the Latino Review newsclip suggested, I don't know how they keep Bale on. He was already depicted as an aging man in the last film. Now he has a back that was broken. I don't feel like it would be believable to have Bale as full on, full time Batman. I feel like he'd come out of retirement to maybe train another Batman, but that's it. Otherwise I'd piss all over the Justice League movie.
ETA: maybe they bring up Bruce Wayne's son? In the comics it was with Al Ghul's daughter, but maybe in this universe Wayne gets together with Catwoman?
This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:37 pm to LoveThatMoney
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ETA: maybe they bring up Bruce Wayne's son? In the comics it was with Al Ghul's daughter,
Don't get me started on Damian Wayne. That's a sore subject for me right now..
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:38 pm to LoveThatMoney
No...they don't do any of that. There is no way a studio executive gives the 'ok' to have any other character but Bruce Wayne don the cape and cowl. None.
Yet you'd be perfectly willing to accept the believability of characters such as Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman?
With those characters now in existence, it's perfectly acceptable to have Bruce Wayne healed by way of some futuristic, extraterrestrial drug.
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I don't feel like it would be believable to have Bale as full on, full time Batman.
Yet you'd be perfectly willing to accept the believability of characters such as Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman?
With those characters now in existence, it's perfectly acceptable to have Bruce Wayne healed by way of some futuristic, extraterrestrial drug.
This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:42 pm to RollTide1987
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With those characters now in existence, it's perfectly acceptable to have Bruce Wayne healed by way of some futuristic, extraterrestrial drug.
The problem is that their inability to stick think outside of the "Nolanverse" box. Bruce Wayne can hang upside down for a few hours and heal his broken back but there's no way technology, earthly or otherwise, can explain his return for a JL movie.
Posted on 3/4/13 at 1:42 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, I have, its just I typically don't think of it when reading comics based around Batman since there is rarely a concrete continuity. If you put Bale back in JL, then that would be a concrete continuity that Superman was somehow around for those events and could have stopped them instantly. Superman could have found and launched the nuke into orbit before Bane knew what hit him. He could have found the Joker from the moment he escaped the police station and had time to save both Rachel and Harvey.
well that could easily be worked around by having Supes being a young kid still struggling with his identity during those events.
He doesn't have to be the same age as Batman.
Hell, maybe even thinking Batman was blown up protecting Gotham is something that helped spur him on to be a hero.
and perhaps seeing a new hero come out is what causes Bruce Wayne to get back to fighting.
That's no worse than Bruce quitting crime fighting b/c Harvey Dent and Katie Gyllenhaal died.
This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 1:47 pm
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