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RollTide1987
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Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
Without a doubt one of the weirdest, most fricked up movies I have ever seen....but I liked it.

One question though, did Alex go back to the way he was at the beginning at the end of the film? I get the sense that he either:


*SPOILERS*













1. Died, because his eyes went really crazy.
2. Went back to the way he was.
3. Went completely insane.


DMagic
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
The book is even more fricked up if you can believe it


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coonass73
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
I think he went back to close to what he was before but gained a bit of perspective and wound up closer to "normal". Its been a while since i have read the book or seen the movie, but i recall that's what i thought.


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Spock's Eyebrow
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
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2. Went back to the way he was.


The book OTOH ends very differently. However, the original American version ends like the movie. It was only later that the British author, Anthony Burgess, prevailed and got his American publishers to include his final chapter, which was always part of the British version. It's interesting to read how he constructed the novel, with each of the three sections of seven chapters beginning the same way, "What's it going to be then, eh?", and how his choice of 21 chapters wasn't just a random number. The Americans screwed that up by leaving the 21st chapter out, which they viewed as a cop-out. I can definitely see both sides of that argument.

BTW, Malcolm McDowell was close to 30 when he played Alex, who was only 15 in the book.

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his eyes went really crazy.


That was just Alex having an orgasmic fantasy free of the Ludovico sickness.
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fr33manator
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
He didn't die.
And my interpretation was he was able to begin to regain his free will, which the ludovico treatment had stripped from him, and he would be able to retrain himself to be able to indulge in his whims once more, albeit with the perspective of the victim in his mind now. I've always seen him as a sociopath.


TideHater
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
I'm singing in the rain, just singing in the rain





time for a little of the ultra violence




no time for the in and out love...i'm just here to read the meter.


fr33manator
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
"Ho, ho, ho! Well, if it isn't fat stinking billy goat Billy Boy in poison! How art thou, thou globby bottle of cheap, stinking chip oil? Come and get one in the yarbles, if ya have any yarbles, you eunuch jelly thou!"


CocomoLSU
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
Here are my thoughts on ACO: LINK


fr33manator
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
Good assessment, but i think you definitely did miss something if the Britishness of it threw you off.
But then again, I'm an Anglophile


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LarryDavid
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
The Durango-95 purred away real horrorshow - a nice, warm, vibraty feeling all through your guttiwuts. Soon, it was trees and dark, my brothers, with real country dark. We fillied around for a while with other travellers of the night, playing hogs of the road. Then we headed West. What we were after now was the old surprise visit. That was a real kick, and good for laughs and lashings of the old ultra-violence.


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DanglingFury
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
I think he

quote:

Went back to the way he was.


davesdawgs
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
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I think he

quote:
Went back to the way he was.


My impression as well. Socialist justice at it's finest. Bottom line: they wasted a bunch of time, resources, etc. on treatment that was ruled cruel and unusual punishment and freed a vicious murderer. Should have just executed this psychopath and be done with it.


GeauxColonels
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
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Without a doubt one of the weirdest, most fricked up movies I have ever seen....but I liked it.

You think it's fricked up now? Imagine seeing it for the first time while in middle school. I don't think I was fully able to comprehend everything I saw. Hell, I still feel like this now.


TigerMyth36
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
Anyone fancy a trip to the milk bar?


indianswim
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
You see more and more of the full circle of things as you watch it more times. Really a finely crafted movie. But if you watch it, you'll start talking like that IRL.

Viddy well little brotha. Viddy well.


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Marciano1
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
I remember watching this movie for the first time and thinking it was weird and stupid.

But, after watching it again later on I started to understand the greatness of it. I still thought it was weird as shite (how can you not?) but it was no longer stupid.

Watched a three part documentary on youtube and that also helped me understand just how great this movie really is. Truly a disturbing yet brilliant movie.

And that image of Alex with the milk is about as creepy as images can get.


timbo
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
One of my favorite movies of all time.
Slight side note: I read somewhere that Al Jourgensen, the guy in Ministry, bought the Korova Milk Bar set and installed it in his home. To me, that's the sort of shite you do when you're a rich rock star.


Carson123987
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
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My impression as well. Socialist justice at it's finest. Bottom line: they wasted a bunch of time, resources, etc. on treatment that was ruled cruel and unusual punishment and freed a vicious murderer. Should have just executed this psychopath and be done with it


The Seaward
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
I went see it at the theatre this summer. An older couple left about about 30 minutes in after the sped up sex with underage girls scene. I don't think they cared for it.

As good as the movie is though, the book is even better. Probably my favorite novel. Real horrorshow.

The book ending is totally different as well, since the movie omits the 21st chapter. Burgess didn't care for the movie ending.
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Spock's Eyebrow
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re: Just watched "A Clockwork Orange" for the first time
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Slight side note: I read somewhere that Al Jourgensen, the guy in Ministry, bought the Korova Milk Bar set and installed it in his home.


"The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultraviolence."

The coffee tables and old Luce must have been great conversation starters when the old boy brought home a blue-hair or two.


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