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re: Jar Jar Binks was a Powerful Force User?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:07 am to Baloo
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:07 am to Baloo
The evil mastermind part (assuming Sith) falls apart as well because that would mean there would be 3 sith at once, while at the end of the 1st movie, they blatantly say that cannot be the case. It breaks the fundamental rule of the Sith right out of the gate. However, if you overlook that huge hole, yea it makes sense 
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:28 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Ummm... that would mean, by definition, he's not a Sith, as he does not have Force powers. He could just be evil.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:29 am to Baloo
Right, but isn't this theory about him being a Sith Lord? Or are there two theories going around now?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:39 am to GoCrazyAuburn
See, and I explicitly rejected that part of it. I think he can be an evil mastermind without being involved in any of the Force mumbo jumbo. He can just be a shrewd politician aligned with Palpatine.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:51 am to Baloo
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:52 am to jmarto1
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:24 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Powerful Jedi can sense the force in others. Surely one of the Jedi Masters would have noticed.
If that is true, why did Palpatine go unnoticed for so long while Senator?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:30 pm to jmarto1
Ahmed Best (actor who played Jar Jar) on Twitter
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"I will say this, it feels really good when the hidden meaning behind the work is seen. No matter how long it takes."
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:40 pm to GOON
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:01 pm to txbd
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:00 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Where does it say he doesn't have any training?
I would imagine if he's a sith leader that he's had some training
I would imagine if he's a sith leader that he's had some training
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:05 pm to wildtigercat93
Exactly. Jar Jar's no rookie. He is a marshal master.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:06 pm to wildtigercat93
Also I looked up the rule of two and pretty much every Sith hated the rule and broke it constantly. It's not some unbreakable plot point
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:13 pm to wildtigercat93
Yea, but you also have to take the EU stuff with a grain of salt. As far as movies go, the rule of 2 is law. The movie makes sure you know that. There is no point bringing it up otherwise.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:16 pm to wildtigercat93
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:18 pm to wildtigercat93
I don't know if I buy this but damn that would've been an incredible twist to have Jar-Jar come out of nowhere and reveal himself in a battle with Yoda.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:43 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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take the EU stuff with a grain of salt. As far as movies go, the rule of 2 is law. The movie makes sure you know that. There is no point bringing it up otherwise.
The movies broke the rule too.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:44 pm to jmarto1
While I don't think this is legit, it certainly provokes some thought. It seems completely silly, but the more you try to discount or prove it wrong, the more circumstancial evidence pops up that could actually support it.
Jar Jar definitely pops into every relevant scene that shapes the SW galaxy as we know it, and he often is providing at least subtle momentum to move things to Palpatine's control/ the "Dark Side".
Most of all, it's able to fit; all you would need would be to add in a history of Binks and Palpatine knowing each other prior to Palpatine's rise to power. There's nothing that would contradict that, and then the rest actually works. Binks and Palpatine would be the 2 "real" Sith, who move and shape things at the strategic level, and Maul/Dooku/Grevious/Vader are just powerful pawns who are used, but replaceable.
If you go with this, then almost any and all remnants of the Jedi are gone by the time Vader and Yoda die, and Luke is a powerful but only partially trained Force user, who could be vulnerable to the subversions of an apparently idiotic (but truly extremely evil and skilled) Binks. And this time, you don't have even the slightest hint of an order that could resist them, within the Force.
Jar Jar definitely pops into every relevant scene that shapes the SW galaxy as we know it, and he often is providing at least subtle momentum to move things to Palpatine's control/ the "Dark Side".
Most of all, it's able to fit; all you would need would be to add in a history of Binks and Palpatine knowing each other prior to Palpatine's rise to power. There's nothing that would contradict that, and then the rest actually works. Binks and Palpatine would be the 2 "real" Sith, who move and shape things at the strategic level, and Maul/Dooku/Grevious/Vader are just powerful pawns who are used, but replaceable.
If you go with this, then almost any and all remnants of the Jedi are gone by the time Vader and Yoda die, and Luke is a powerful but only partially trained Force user, who could be vulnerable to the subversions of an apparently idiotic (but truly extremely evil and skilled) Binks. And this time, you don't have even the slightest hint of an order that could resist them, within the Force.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:44 pm to NIH
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I don't know if I buy this but damn that would've been an incredible twist to have Jar-Jar come out of nowhere and reveal himself in a battle with Yoda.
Zero chance they'll take that kind of risk at this point, as soon as Jar Jar comes out, everyone is instantly turned off
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:47 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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As far as movies go, the rule of 2 is law. The movie makes sure you know that.
It isnt law. The Jedi were shown to be arrogant and ignorant enough that their knowledge of the Sith ended up being very faulty. They misinterpreted the prophecy of Anakin bringing balance to the Force as him killing off the Sith when in reality he brought it by ending the Jedi's supreme reign.
The idea of "there can only be 2" could easily be nothing more than a Sith lie used to hide their true numbers.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 3:49 pm
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