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re: Isn't Star Trek II Wrath of Khan Exceptional?

Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:03 am to
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The destruction of the Enterprise was disappointing. Not the fact that they destroyed the ship, but I didn't like how they destroyed it.


It started a habit of wrecking the Enterprise for shock value/trivial reasons.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:07 am to
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It started a habit of wrecking the Enterprise for shock value/trivial reasons.


True. If the destruction of the ship served some purpose in the overall Nexus plot, it would have worked.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5410 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:11 am to
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Seeing Kirk and Picard on screen together made that film worth it.


And then Picard buries Kirk on a remote planet under rocks. They couldn't give him a proper funeral?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:15 am to
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And then Picard buries Kirk on a remote planet under rocks. They couldn't give him a proper funeral?


Idk, but thanks to this thread I know have this stuck in my head.

Lifeforms...
You tiny little lifeforms...
You precious little lifeforms...
Where are you?
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:43 am to
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Lifeforms...


Was that one from Generations or Insurrection? Seems like Data sang in more than one of these movies. In looking back at what I remember of Generations, it seemed like that had some good base ideas, but it was clumsily put together. Insurrection had horrible CGI and seemed like a two-part TV episode I had seen before.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Was that one from Generations or Insurrection? Seems like Data sang in more than one of these movies. In looking back at what I remember of Generations, it seemed like that had some good base ideas, but it was clumsily put together. Insurrection had horrible CGI and seemed like a two-part TV episode I had seen before.


Generations - The Lifeforms song
Insurrection - A British Tar by Gilbert and Sullivan
Nemesis - Blue Skies by Irving Berlin

And I'm not even ashamed or embarrassed that I know that.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:24 pm to
Didn't want this thread to fall off the first page.

I'm of the opinion that they could have stopped the entire ST franchise after TWOK. It was that damn good, and the ending would have been the perfect sendoff to the series. But I'm probably alone in that sentiment (FTR, I enjoyed TVH and First Contact immensely).

Best thing is, my youngest (17) has become a huge ST:TOS fan, and we've been watching the entire series on Netflix. We just watched Space Seed, and I can't wait to spring TWOK on her
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 6:30 am to
TVH is a hoot and has an awesome soundtrack.

TWOK was a great 1st movie of the trilogy, with TSFS the necessary (with darker tones) medium, to the lighter (and more hopeful) last movie.

Should have stopped there.


Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 6:36 am to
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TWOK was a great 1st movie of the trilogy, with TSFS the necessary (with darker tones) medium, to the lighter (and more hopeful) last movie.

Should have stopped there.



While Star Trek V was crap, I thought Star Trek VI was a good movie and had a nice ending (aside from the fact that Sulu was missing in the final shot).

"Second star to the right. Straight on til morning."
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 6:38 am
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5410 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:19 am to
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While Star Trek V was crap, I thought Star Trek VI was a good movie and had a nice ending (aside from the fact that Sulu was missing in the final shot).


I don't think ST VI gets made if ST V had actually been a good film.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:18 am to
1) Wrath of Khan
2) Voyage Home
3) The Motion Picture
4) Undiscovered Country
5) Search for Spock
6) The Final Frontier
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38475 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:20 am to
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Didn't want this thread to fall off the first page.


This thread has me wanting to watch the Next Generation films. I've watched the original series films a bunch, but have ignored NG over the years.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10299 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:37 am to
It's honestly not my favorite Star Trek film. It's a good movie, but I don't see it as one of the best sci-fi films ever made.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10299 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:39 am to
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This thread has me wanting to watch the Next Generation films. I've watched the original series films a bunch, but have ignored NG over the years.


Generations is trash. It's probably my least favorite Star Trek film. The premise is sound, but you can steer the Titanic through the ocean of plotholes in that film.

Insurrection is a movie I kind of liked, but when you watch it, you have to go into it understanding that there's little reason why it couldn't be a multi-part TV episode.

First Contact is the best one and probably my favorite Star Trek movie. I don't even think you have to be a Star Trek fan to enjoy it.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12157 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:34 am to
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Insurrection is a movie I kind of liked, but when you watch it, you have to go into it understanding that there's little reason why it couldn't be a multi-part TV episode. 


People complain about Insurrection being just like a two part episode, but to tell the truth, that's what I like the most about it.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24684 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:53 pm to
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1) Wrath of Khan
2) Voyage Home
3) The Motion Picture
4) Undiscovered Country
5) Search for Spock
6) The Final Frontier


I'd switch 3 for 5. But the UC is not bad at all.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95758 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Best thing is, my youngest (17) has become a huge ST:TOS fan, and we've been watching the entire series on Netflix. We just watched Space Seed, and I can't wait to spring TWOK on her


Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6582 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:53 pm to
WOK
VH
First contact
Undiscovered
Search for spock
Motion picture
Insurrection
Generations
Final frontier



Nemesis
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:01 pm to
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Insurrection is a movie I kind of liked, but when you watch it, you have to go into it understanding that there's little reason why it couldn't be a multi-part TV episode.



The best thing about Insurrection was Donna Murphy.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5565 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:12 am to
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That writing was so much the shite.




To the people who downvoted this, he was paying a complement.
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 12:21 am
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