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re: Is Miami Vice the best bad movie ever?

Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:05 am to
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:05 am to
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Rumor had it that Clooney and Willis were going to play Xerxes and Leonidas, with Mann directing. That would have been something, if true.


I can't picture a Michael Mann film without a shootout.

I absolutely love Miami Vice. Truly an underrated movie and I'm quite confused why it's never shown on cable.

Music was great in the movie too. (Encore, Audioslave)
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:09 am to
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I can't picture a Michael Mann film without a shootout.


There would have been archers.

And you know that the phalanx engagement would have been 100% researched and realistic, rather than the video game fantasy that is 300 (and - full disclosure, I'm not knocking 300, it just is what it is).
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:17 am to
I know but one of the best things Mann does is replicate realistic gunshots with his sound editing. (Heat, Miami Vice, Collateral and even Public Enemies)
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:20 am to
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I know but one of the best things Mann does is replicate realistic gunshots with his sound editing.


That's just a technical aspect he's developed secondary to his commitment to realism.

I think you may be ignoring the visual - the firearms handling (an aspect of acting for our purposes here) is extremely well done in Mann films. Why? Because he insists on it.

Particularly Heat and Collateral - those are textbook examples of the depiction of highly trained and experienced shooters.
Posted by GeauxBichGeaux
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:48 am to
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It has one of the best boat scenes maybe in film history and the films use of music is pretty spot on for the time it was made


+1. taking a cigar boat to cuba just for a night out was ridiculously awesome and the club scenes sounded sick on surround sound.

The cinematography was also great, the drug dealers house in the jungle with the waterfalls in his backyard.

The whole thing was like a stoner fantasy movie and it worked for college aged me.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 10:24 am to
The extended opening scene was awesome as well.

I loved the TV series.

If you look at as “hey here’s an out of continuity episode of Miami Vice” at its most serious, it’s pretty good.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 10:40 am to
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I think you may be ignoring the visual - the firearms handling (an aspect of acting for our purposes here) is extremely well done in Mann films. Why? Because he insists on it.



Noticed this in Collateral when it was on TV last night. A cop was searching an apartment and despite it becoming apparent that the guy he was looking for had been thrown out of the window, he pivoted and swept the area on the other side of the bed as he approached. Not sure why it caught my attention, it just seems like something that wouldn't happen in a shittier movie.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 11:20 am to
I have read that Colin was going through some drug problems during that filming.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 11:25 am to
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Not sure why it caught my attention, it just seems like something that wouldn't happen in a shittier movie.


Watch Heat next time, closely. Outstanding firearms handling throughout.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 11:34 am to
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s Miami Vice the best bad movie ever?
no. Toyko Drift.

/thread
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
5063 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:13 pm to
Always loved this movie
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 7:08 pm to
300 was incredible. Glad Michael Mann did Miami Vice instead. Michael Bay had already made a better Miami Vice movie in Bad Boys 2 anyways.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:17 pm to
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and I was a fan of the television show (which usually means I pass on the movie).



the TV series was only good up until some where in the middle of the 3rd season.


I watched reruns of it on USA all the time growing up.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:32 pm to
Miami Vice & Mogwai ftw. All this thread did is make me want to watch it again tbh.
Posted by marcnbc
Bossier City, LA
Member since May 2004
4539 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:42 pm to
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Is Miami Vice the best bad movie ever?




Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72130 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 9:54 pm to
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Colin Farrell gives one of the most self serious, bizarre, bewildering performances of his or any other career. One scene he even had a southern accent then it was gone the rest of the film.


I’m a fiend for mojitos



I actually think the movie looked great like all MM movies. It was just goofy. I actually kinda liked it.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 11:38 pm to
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300 was incredible. Glad Michael Mann did Miami Vice instead. Michael Bay had already made a better Miami Vice movie in Bad Boys 2 anyways.


Everything about this post fails.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:46 am to
I straight up love this movie.

The script has this strangely stylized language.

quote:

But we know this guy. I think you
know this guy. Normally, he is
cool. Tonight he is distraught.
That is atypical. That engenders
foreboding. Do you understand the
meaning of the word "foreboding"?
As in badness is happening to your
deal right fricking now?


It’s got a very Shakespearean quality to it. And it works, because of Farrell, and the way he plays it with complete sincerity. He’s also intense, which is half the reason it works so well.
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