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I'm really over this 6-8 episode BS and not releasing seasons but every couple of years

Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:57 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:57 am
Just saw this Tweet about the Hedge Knight's premiere season only having 6 episodes. And of course HBO is alternating seasons of House of the Dragon and the Hedge Knight, so we won't see the 2nd season until 2027.

Any chance this changes anytime soon? Surely waiting half our lives for a handful of seasons will eventually turn people off from watching?

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:19 am to
Yea it's pretty ridiculous. The writers strike has made some of them even longer but it was already a bad trend. I don't mind rewatching a show, but I hate having to rewatch just because it's been so long I no longer remember anything about the show. Put out a new season every year and if you're not going to do it every year, at least make them 10 episode seasons.

It's even comedies now that are shorter seasons. Like the show Hacks Love that show, super funny, but it's over a year in between seasons and you have 10 30 minute episodes? Come on.

Very annoying trend that looks to be the norm now unfortunately.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:27 am to
I agree with the premise, although I don’t know if A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is the best example. Six episodes seems adequate to tell the Hedge Knight story. It’s only 150 pages. Stretching it out will have people crying “filler.”

There is no reason HOTD production should be affected by other shows. None of the writers or showrunners are working on both series and the scale of D&E should not require extensive visual effects work.

I can see why though would slowly release Dunk and Egg since he only has 3 out of 7-12 short stories written. We all know that number is unlikely to change in 2029 when they release the final published story in D&E. But that kid isn’t going to stop aging and I don’t know how many he has planned where Egg is still a child. He goes from 9 to 12 in the books we have now.

Obligatory “frick GRRM”
Posted by TIGERSTORM
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:35 am to
I don't mind the shorter seasons but the wait in between sucks. A lot of British shows now run 3-6 episodes but return on a regular basis.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:36 am to
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agree with the premise, although I don’t know if A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is the best example. Six episodes seems adequate to tell the Hedge Knight story. It’s only 150 pages. Stretching it out will have people crying “filler.”



That's fair.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:39 am to
it’s even dumber when you have bullshite like Yellowstone that do the same thing but call it the same “season” after the two+ year break.

it makes kids/teenage casting super jarring when watching all together back to back

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:39 am to
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A lot of British shows now run 3-6 episodes but return on a regular basis.


Something that a lot of British shows do well is a real lack of filler. There's almost always some kind of development.

Those shorter British series though usually are hour plus long episodes and much closer to the runtime of a movie than a American TV show. Sherlock is probably one of the most popular examples and those episodes were 85-90 minutes long runtimes.

Something like Broadchurch for example was around 8 episodes a season and about an hour episodes, but had some MAJOR British actors in them. Nailing down Tennant and Colman while they were doing some other major projects were pretty signficant castings.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:41 am to
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I don't mind the shorter seasons but the wait in between sucks. A lot of British shows now run 3-6 episodes but return on a regular basis.


Every streamer should strive to be more like Apple+ and Slow Horses.

“It’s been 3 months since we dropped the Slow Horses season 3 without any warning, so we released season 4 last week but didn’t tell anybody.” - Ghost of Steve Jobs
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:12 am to
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HBO is alternating seasons of House of the Dragon and the Hedge Knight, so we won't see the 2nd season until 2027.


It takes time to make sure that every character is boring and disconnected from the audience. You can't figure out how to make everything an accident and that both sides are innocent in just a year.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 11:14 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:14 am to
I came in thinking this was a South Park thread....
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:15 am to
Randy spent more time with creme fraiche then we have with American TV shows in the last couple of years.
Posted by fightforus82
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:16 am to
Yeah this how I feel about Stranger Things, writer's strike be damned. 3 year wait for 8 episodes is ridiculous.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:35 am to
Oh more GoT bullshite from grrm that isn’t actually finishing his story. Pass.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:40 am to
I don't mind waiting for a show with impeccable quality, but there's not many of those that exist anymore. I think drama, action, and suspense tv should heavily lean towards miniseries, one big season, or a max of 3-4 seasons for shows with a ton of source material.

I find a lot of modern shows to waste a ton of time on filler that no one really cares to see. How many camera A-camera B conversations about a side love story or irrelevant plot line can you have before it gets old?
Posted by Dixie Normus
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:06 pm to
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it makes kids/teenage casting super jarring when watching all together back to back


This. It’s particularly problematic in shows with young actors. It also creates unnecessary difficulties with writing with the young actors. You either have to create an explanation for the gap or just ignore the fact that Timmy looks like he got slammed in the face with a tub of HGH over the break. The Stranger Things kids were walking a fine line already in S4 and they’re gonna look way different in S5 with what will be a 3-year gap or more.
Posted by LB84
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Yeah this how I feel about Stranger Things, writer's strike be damned. 3 year wait for 8 episodes is ridiculous.


This is the most egregious one IMO. It was such a hit I don't understand why they aren't motivated to push these seasons faster.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
Welcome to the way Europe does TV..

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:09 pm to
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I'm really over this 6-8 episode BS and not releasing seasons but every couple of years


Well, you may be over it, but the folks who make television aren't over it.

#Newnormal
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Welcome to the way Europe does TV..


If they gave us that same quality of programming consistently, I wouldn't have as much of an issue.
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:48 pm to
Sometimes fewer episodes is better if there is only so much material to cover.
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