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I'll Be Gone in the Dark | HBO | Michelle McNamara | Golden State Killer

Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:15 pm
Anyone watching this?

I've seen docs on the East Area Rapist before, but it's still shocking to see survivors give details and to see how this guy ran rampant in the 70's and 80's.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:16 pm to
this is the guy with the tiny penis, right?
Posted by gringeaux
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:22 pm to
I watched the 1st episode last week. Looks good, and I had no idea this was Patton Oswalt's wife. It's crazy to think that he got away with this for so long.
Posted by El Mattadorr
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:54 pm to
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this is the guy with the tiny penis, right?


I'm not sure. They haven't "gotten that far into it" yet.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:00 pm to
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this is the guy with the tiny penis, right?

They haven't gotten to the discussion of the lineup yet.

Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:22 pm to
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but it's still shocking to see survivors give details


I hope they don’t spend a ton of time focusing on the survivors, and their lives. That was one of my main issues with the Epstein Doc on Netflix, they spent too much time telling the stories of the victims. I get why they do it, but they aren’t what’s interesting.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:54 pm to
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I hope they don’t spend a ton of time focusing on the survivors, and their lives.


Same with McNamara (RIP) sorry.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:18 pm to
I like it so far...

With nothing to look forward to each week except for this and Perry Mason, this is solid tv.

Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:20 pm to
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this is the guy with the tiny penis, right?


This has been mentioned quickly in passing at some point in episode 1 I think. But that’s been it as far as to this aspect
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:23 pm to
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Same with McNamara (RIP) sorry.


The show is based on her book and how writing it basically killed her, so yeah she's a big part of it.
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:16 am to
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This has been mentioned quickly in passing at some point in episode 1 I think.


Yes. It was mentioned a couple of times.

Spoiler alert



The dude was in court recently, acting like he was a mouth agape invalid. They said that it wasn't long ago that he was on a motorcycle zipping through traffic. He has a history of faking.

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The first instance occurred in 1979 when DeAngelo, then a police officer in Auburn, was arrested for shoplifting. When apprehended by store security, Ho said DeAngelo faked a heart attack, "rolled around" and "screamed incoherently." He later admitted to deputies he had "just pretended to act crazy to avoid getting in trouble," Ho said. DeAngelo was subsequently fired from his job.

Detectives again saw DeAngelo's alleged deceitfulness on display when they tailed him in 2018, after he'd been linked to the Golden State Killer crimes via DNA evidence. "A few hours before the [police] interview, detectives observed DeAngelo vigorously working on his yard, jumping in and out of his truck, and lifting heavy objects. Just a week before, he was seen racing his motorcycle on the freeway at high rates of speed, weaving and out of traffic and performing sophisticated counter-surveillance maneuvers," Ho said. "Now sitting in the interview room, he feigned feeble incoherence."

Left alone in the interview room, Ho said DeAngelo rambled and made dubious claims that a voice he called "Jerry" forced him to rape and murder dozens of people across the state. He did, however, allegedly say, "I did all that," the closest thing he'd come to a confession until Monday morning.


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Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:45 am to
my wife and I are big true crime fans, and listen to several podcasts. we have her book although i have not read it yet. really hate I don't have HBO as i was really stoked about the series.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:49 am to
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The show is based on her book and how writing it basically killed her, so yeah she's a big part of it.


Exactly. It'd be disingenuous to not include her story along with it.

I haven't watched the second episode yet but I found it pretty interesting. I like hearing the survivors stories, how McNamara came to write the book/get involved, etc.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:54 am to
I usually don't give a shite about millennials telling me about the history that I lived through, but it's interesting to hear their shocked responses to how rape was viewed in the 70's, and how open and accessible homes and neighborhoods were.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:42 am to
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I usually don't give a shite about millennials telling me about the history that I lived through, but it's interesting to hear their shocked responses to how rape was viewed in the 70's, and how open and accessible homes and neighborhoods were.


I wasn't old enough in the 80s to process how rape was viewed at the time, but we regularly left doors open, windows open, and only had a backyard fence so the dog wouldn't get out. In a large metro area. Many of our neighbors didn't have fences and we regularly cut through yards. People in suburban areas in single family homes really didn't have security systems either. It was very accessible.

But it's an important discussion to have if you're anyone under the age of 35-40-ish because people don't realize how just a couple of decades ago how things were. Or the stigma that came along with being a rape victim.

From a psych perspective, its pretty heartbreaking to digest. They detail that there were likely at least 10-15 active rapists in the Sacramento area at the time, raping at a similar clip of 30-50+ women. Knowing what we know now about rape trauma, that's at least 300-400 women in that area who had no real trauma counseling/support after the fact. Then, add in the men involved, when he started going after couples and raping the wife/girlfriend in front of the husband/boyfriend. Now you have a whole other layer of trauma that likely also wasn't addressed due to the stigma that he shouldn't have allowed that to happen.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:05 pm to
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I wasn't old enough in the 80s to process how rape was viewed at the time, but
Let's put it this way... In the 70's Barney Miller had an episode named "The Rape". The joke was that a wife claimed that her husband had raped her. Which at the time was seen as humorous, since a husband couldn't really rape his wife.

"It Couldn't Happen to a Nicer Guy" was a TV movie where Paul Sorvino is raped at gunpoint by a woman. It was a comedy too.

You had disturbing shows like Edith Bunker fighting off a rapist, but it wasn't the heavy crime that it is today.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:25 pm to
Right. I can process it now looking back, but just wasn't old enough at the time to say that's how I observed it (if that makes sense).

Bumping for tonight's episode.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:31 pm to
I’m in !

It’s like the podcast Serial in HbO format..

Very interesting and I look forward to this each Sunday
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 5:17 pm to
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The show is based on her book and how writing it basically killed her, so yeah she's a big part of it.
she died of an accidental overdose attributed to the effects of multiple drugs, including Adderall, alprazolam (Xanax) and fentanyl.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 5:23 pm to
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she died of an accidental overdose attributed to the effects of multiple drugs, including Adderall, alprazolam (Xanax) and fentanyl.



If you watch and see her (and Patton) talked about her obsession with it, it's pretty easy to see where she'd end up needing drugs to stay awake to research and then to go to sleep. They already talked about the vivid dreams and nightmares she was having.

So yeah, I'd say it contributed.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 5:24 pm
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