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re: If the Truman Show was real...

Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:10 pm to
No way you would figure it out. You have been brainwashed since birth to think everything around you is normal.

The wife sure is a whore because, well, she is a whore.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:12 pm to
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Even if you're a grown adult?

You've never been a mile away from your home town?


For a long time, the majority of Americans had never been a mile away from their home town.

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There's weird, unexplainable things?


From our point of view, yes. From his, those things are normal.

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You never spotted a single hidden camera? You've never thought about oddities in people around you?



You're not looking at it from Truman's POV...
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:12 pm to
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I do. He was 30 years old. If he hadn't wondered about other places enough to leave by then, he would have certainly been content to stay once he started a family and all that.


But Truman wasn't content where he was. He would have eventually attempted to leave to go to Fiji. That's when he for sure would have realized something was up, even without the radio broadcast. Once he met that girl in college that Truman fell in love with, Truman was a ticking time bomb. He was eventually going to resort to desperate measures to leave town.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:15 pm to
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So the fact that Truman figured it out is nothing short of amazing, when you think about it.

But that's my point, it's not amazing per se, because he didn't figure it out on his own. Not even close actually. There was clue after clue after clue that gave him reason to think something could be up.

And I keep seeing this:
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To us, the billboard with a different ad every day is odd, but to Truman, it's been that way his entire life and that's all he knows. In his world, billboards change ads daily.

We don't know that he was pushed into the ad every single day. That could have just been a day where he didn't stop next to it or look a certain direction or something like that.

But your point is still made though...if that's all you knew every single day, then it wouldn't seem the least bit odd.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:16 pm to
I think that you are not considering the fact that this was an American movie, which is generally resolved with a happy ending. If the Truman Show was real life, then I think that neither Truman nor any of us would have figured it out.
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 1:17 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:16 pm to
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Well, if you were ALWAYS the center of the world, you would assume that's how it should be. Think about how entitled some people feel when they AREN'T the center of the world. So the fact that Truman figured it out is nothing short of amazing, when you think about it.


Well there could be some events to where Truman realizes he shouldn't be the center of the world, most particullarly having a child. Granted responsibility had not really been brought to Truman at the point we joined him in the film, so I can't blame him for not figuring it out at that point.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:17 pm to
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But Truman wasn't content where he was. He would have eventually attempted to leave to go to Fiji. That's when he for sure would have realized something was up, even without the radio broadcast. Once he met that girl in college that Truman fell in love with, Truman was a ticking time bomb. He was eventually going to resort to desperate measures to leave town.

I may be misremembering, but wasn't the only reason he wanted to go to Fiji because the girl he loved went there? I'm pretty sure that's what he was told (by her or by people of the show).

So, again, that's a frickup that could have been avoided. If none of those out-of-the-ordinary things happen to him, he never questions anything (or wants to get out).
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:17 pm to
Plus you forget they screwed him up with the boat accident to make him afraid to leave.

The dude was all screwed up in the head. Heck, I am not sure I believe he really would have left like he did. It took tremendous courage on his part which most people do not have.

Did I mention his wife is a whore?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:21 pm to
Great discussion, btw. I was looking for something to pass the time for the rest of the afternoon.

We should do this once a week or so...pick a movie and just overanalyze the frick out of it for no reason. Makes for interesting topics.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:22 pm to
But still, it's the love.

It's not the place, is the thing inside of him. That yearning for something bigger.

He doesn't feel that way about his wife.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:25 pm to
After seeing the Truman Show for the first time, I, and sure almost everyone else, thought, "What if my life was being filmed for a TV show?" Of course, then you simply cross out that idea because your life has to be real, but then again, what if you just never noticed. There really is no way to prove that is not filmed as incredibly far-fetched as it sounds. To me, that is why The Truman Show is such an interesting and fun movie.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:26 pm to
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He doesn't feel that way about his wife.

He partly feels that way about the other girl because of the circumstances. Had she not tried to tell him the truth, they could have easily created something to make him not like her and fall for his wife. Again, it's something that, had it not happened - and it could have been prevented - Truman would have never questioned anything or longed for her/Fiji.

Also, he was the kind of person who would have fallen in line, so to speak, had they gotten pregnant and had kids. He was a good-hearted person who wanted to love his life, but felt that something was missing (based on the frickups by the show). That's why I think that had he and his wife gotten pregnant and started a family, he would have let those deep feelings die inside of him instead of continuing to explore and investigate things. He would have "done the right thing" and stepped up and been tehre for his family. At least IMO.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:35 pm to
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We should do this once a week or so...pick a movie and just overanalyze the frick out of it for no reason. Makes for interesting topics.


Well, we kind of do that with SBTB episodes...
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:35 pm to
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He partly feels that way about the other girl because of the circumstances. Had she not tried to tell him the truth, they could have easily created something to make him not like her and fall for his wife. Again, it's something that, had it not happened - and it could have been prevented - Truman would have never questioned anything or longed for her/Fiji.


I don't know. He seemed pretty smitten with her from first sight. I don't think you can really undo that in a guy, especially such a tightly wound guy like Truman. She was a taste of something new, fresh, but most importantly foreign.

This is a good discussion!

I always thought it'd be a neat job to be a clip organizer for the Truman Show. When the director needs a mash-up montage of tidbits of Truman's life to summarize where his emotions are coming from you get to pull from all sorts of footage. Those guys have to be quicker than sports broadcast editors!
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 1:37 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:40 pm to
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Well, we kind of do that with SBTB episodes...

True. And with movies too.

I guess this one just hit at the right time, cuz I was starting to get bored up here, and suddenly got involved with a thread.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:41 pm to
I haven't seen the movie in years so this might be an easy one, but why couldn't Truman see the show on TV? Did the networks set it up to where he didn't get that channel or something?
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:43 pm to
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I always thought it'd be a neat job to be a clip organizer for the Truman Show. When the director needs a mash-up montage of tidbits of Truman's life to summarize where his emotions are coming from you get to pull from all sorts of footage. Those guys have to be quicker than sports broadcast editors!

However, The Truman Show is a 24/7 broadcast, so nothing would ever have to be edited, I think. It is a live, lifelong broadcast.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:51 pm to
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I always thought it'd be a neat job to be a clip organizer for the Truman Show. When the director needs a mash-up montage of tidbits of Truman's life to summarize where his emotions are coming from you get to pull from all sorts of footage. Those guys have to be quicker than sports broadcast editors!


However, The Truman Show is a 24/7 broadcast, so nothing would ever have to be edited, I think. It is a live, lifelong broadcast.


But they did some split screen and montage/recap during the broadcast. Kind of like NFL games.
Posted by catholictigerfan
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:57 pm to
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1) and you were the lead (Truman), how obvious do you think it would be that you were the center of the world around you?



I don't think it would be that obvious you grew up in this world you would think it was part of reality.
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1.1) Were their TVs in Truman's world? Would it help if there was?


sure but it would be broadcast in a way to convinence you your world was real not fake

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1.2) Wouldn't actions from people alone clue you in, even if that was all you've known?



eventually
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1.3) Aren't we all really the center of our own universe?



sure
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2) then how would the logistics for the show work?


kinda like they do in the real movie have hidden cameras everywhere.

But I would change things to were people live with the guy instead of people having people running a script. Some yes would be scripted but people would live their life like they would normally run it. Would be difficult though to get god ratings this way

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2.1) Do the actors take vacations?


yes

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2.2) Did Truman's childhood friend need acting lessons to be able to act the part without suspicion when he was older? Or does that type of relationship not really need to be acted out?


I don't think you need to train them alot just alittle so they don't give it away. Maybe at first just have it to were they don't really know there is a show they are like trueman just not the center of attention and when they are old enough to be trusted let them know about everything.

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3) and you were an actor, what would you not cross the ethical/moral line on?


harm anyone unnecessarily, wouldn't have relaitons with anyone just for the show. Maybe a few other things.

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- Consider being in the role of Truman's father. Would you say yes to putting a kid through the real torment of loss and grief? How much money would it take you to do this?


IDK I would have to give some thought to this.

good thread IMO
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 2:00 pm to
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I may be misremembering, but wasn't the only reason he wanted to go to Fiji because the girl he loved went there? I'm pretty sure that's what he was told (by her or by people of the show).

So, again, that's a frickup that could have been avoided. If none of those out-of-the-ordinary things happen to him, he never questions anything (or wants to get out).



Yeah its a frickup, but still from that it would just be a matter of time before Truman snapped because of his loveless marriage and try to leave the town. Then he would be subject to those ridiculous measures he was subject to when he left, and then he'd figure it out.
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