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If the Truman Show was real...
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:13 pm
I am going to ask some questions to start a discussion about this film.
If the Truman Show was real:
1) and you were the lead (Truman), how obvious do you think it would be that you were the center of the world around you?
1.1) Were their TVs in Truman's world? Would it help if there was?
1.2) Wouldn't actions from people alone clue you in, even if that was all you've known?
1.3) Aren't we all really the center of our own universe?
2) then how would the logistics for the show work?
2.1) Do the actors take vacations?
2.2) Did Truman's childhood friend need acting lessons to be able to act the part without suspicion when he was older? Or does that type of relationship not really need to be acted out?
3) and you were an actor, what would you not cross the ethical/moral line on?
- Consider being in the role of Truman's father. Would you say yes to putting a kid through the real torment of loss and grief? How much money would it take you to do this?
I'll hang up and listen.
P.S. This film has a great soundtrack Anthem
If the Truman Show was real:
1) and you were the lead (Truman), how obvious do you think it would be that you were the center of the world around you?
1.1) Were their TVs in Truman's world? Would it help if there was?
1.2) Wouldn't actions from people alone clue you in, even if that was all you've known?
1.3) Aren't we all really the center of our own universe?
2) then how would the logistics for the show work?
2.1) Do the actors take vacations?
2.2) Did Truman's childhood friend need acting lessons to be able to act the part without suspicion when he was older? Or does that type of relationship not really need to be acted out?
3) and you were an actor, what would you not cross the ethical/moral line on?
- Consider being in the role of Truman's father. Would you say yes to putting a kid through the real torment of loss and grief? How much money would it take you to do this?
I'll hang up and listen.
P.S. This film has a great soundtrack Anthem
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:21 pm to Pectus
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you were the lead (Truman)
Canceled faster than Paul Reiser.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:22 pm to Pectus
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1) and you were the lead (Truman), how obvious do you think it would be that you were the center of the world around you?
I think once I got out of my adolescence to where I realize that the world shouldn't revolve around me (25 or so), I'd probably start to take a hint on what may be up.
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1.1) Were their TVs in Truman's world? Would it help if there was?
Didn't shows like Andy Griffith and I Love Lucy play on Truman's television? Probably wouldn't help much at all and only reinforce I was the center of the world since in these shows universes, the main character is indeed the center of the world.
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1.2) Wouldn't actions from people alone clue you in, even if that was all you've known?
Depends on who was around me. I wouldn't suspect much from my best friend, but from a wife I subconsciously knew couldn't stand me. Some of the other people in town would probably give me a clue, like shoving me against a billboard every single day and it has a different advertisement on it every single day.
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1.3) Aren't we all really the center of our own universe?
When you have no responsibility to others, yes. Once you do have responsibility for others though, not really unless you are an extremely selfish person. That is the point where Truman (or I) should start questioning my reality.
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2.1) Do the actors take vacations?
I'd guess that the main actors took a vacation, but I have a hard time fathoming how the wife would have been able to take one, unless of course she had a girl's week every few months. However this would likely make Truman want to leave his enclosure even more though.
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2.2) Did Truman's childhood friend need acting lessons to be able to act the part without suspicion when he was older? Or does that type of relationship not really need to be acted out?
I'm guessing they found the best child actors in the industry and saw which ones made the biggest bond with Truman.
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- Consider being in the role of Truman's father. Would you say yes to putting a kid through the real torment of loss and grief? How much money would it take you to do this?
Not sure if I could do it being Truman's father. I'd rather he live in ignorance for a while. If I was Truman's best friend though, I might have to eventually snap and tell him if I considered Truman a true friend.
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:23 pm to Pectus
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Wouldn't actions from people alone clue you in, even if that was all you've known?
No. You would have no frame of reference. You're out of your element.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:24 pm to Pectus
I tried to watch The Truman Show when I was a kid because I was a huge fan of Jim Carrey. I thought it was going to be a comedy and turned it off...haven't watched it since.
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I know csb
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:26 pm to John McClane
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No. You would have no frame of reference. You're out of your element.
Yeah but certain individuals from Truman's world behave more suspiciously than others, which can serve as some slight frame of reference. Probably the biggest hint would be those 2 guys who constantly shove Truman against a billboard with a different ad every day.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:28 pm to Superior Pariah
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I tried to watch The Truman Show when I was a kid because I was a huge fan of Jim Carrey. I thought it was going to be a comedy and turned it off...haven't watched it since.
Saw it in the theaters and liked it a lot.
It's amazing how popular the theme was in the late 90s. The Matrix, Dark City, eXistenZ, The Thirteenth Floor and Truman Show all dealing with the world your in isn't really the real world after all.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:30 pm to Superior Pariah
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I tried to watch The Truman Show when I was a kid because I was a huge fan of Jim Carrey. I thought it was going to be a comedy and turned it off...haven't watched it since.
I would go back and watch it...he is one of the few actors who is just as good in dramas as he is in comedies.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:39 pm to Pectus
quote:The viewers would be very disappointed.
If the Truman Show was real:
1) and you were the lead
They would say: "He's jacking off to porn again?"
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:39 pm to John McClane
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No. You would have no frame of reference. You're out of your element.
Exactly. It's easy to say you would be aware when looking at it from the outside.
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I tried to watch The Truman Show when I was a kid because I was a huge fan of Jim Carrey. I thought it was going to be a comedy and turned it off...haven't watched it since.
I was the same way. Now that I'm older I really enjoy the movie.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:47 pm to KingofthePoint
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Exactly. It's easy to say you would be aware when looking at it from the outside.
Even if you're a grown adult?
You've never been a mile away from your home town? There's weird, unexplainable things? You never spotted a single hidden camera? You've never thought about oddities in people around you?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:52 pm to Pectus
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You've never been a mile away from your home town? There's weird, unexplainable things? You never spotted a single hidden camera? You've never thought about oddities in people around you?
you don't know that is weird. you don't know what oddities are.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:54 pm to John McClane
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you don't know that is weird. you don't know what oddities are.
but you know life exists elsewhere.
and you know that some people's job is to entertain others.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:55 pm to John McClane
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No. You would have no frame of reference. You're out of your element.
Exactly. It's tough to say what we'd think if we were Truman because we weren't raised in a complete environment where everything (literally, every single thing) is geared to perpetuating our belief that we were stuck in our world/town.
The brilliant thing about Truman show and how they handled it (if it were real) was the instilling of fear of flying and water in him. It's the simplest solution to keeping him there, yet I thought it worked well. I think eventually I'd get curious about things, but based on how he was raised, he pretty much never questioned things until certain events made him wonder (seeing his dad, the light falling from the sky, the rain frick up, his old girlfriend telling him stuff, etc.). Had those things not happened, he would have remained oblivious.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:55 pm to John McClane
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you don't know that is weird. you don't know what oddities are.
Its established to Truman in the show that people have left his town before, so it would seem odd to him not to have ever left it. Also the people behave strangely compared to him.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 12:58 pm to CocomoLSU
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Had those things not happened, he would have remained oblivious.
I don't think they could have kept him oblivious for much longer. Truman certainly noticed some of the oddities of his universe (particularly the product placements) and sensed that his wife couldn't tolerate him. All Truman needed was just a little push.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:02 pm to OMLandshark
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I don't think they could have kept him oblivious for much longer.
I do. He was 30 years old. If he hadn't wondered about other places enough to leave by then, he would have certainly been content to stay once he started a family and all that.
And I forgot the most obvious one...his drive to work where he hears the crew talking about his every move as if it were a setup.
There were so many things that made him think something was up, and all of them were preventable mistakes that caused the show to ultimately fail (cancel).
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:07 pm to Pectus
quote:
1) and you were the lead (Truman), how obvious do you think it would be that you were the center of the world around you?
1.1) Were their TVs in Truman's world? Would it help if there was?
1.2) Wouldn't actions from people alone clue you in, even if that was all you've known?
1.3) Aren't we all really the center of our own universe?
Well, if you were ALWAYS the center of the world, you would assume that's how it should be. Think about how entitled some people feel when they AREN'T the center of the world. So the fact that Truman figured it out is nothing short of amazing, when you think about it.
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2) then how would the logistics for the show work?
2.1) Do the actors take vacations?
2.2) Did Truman's childhood friend need acting lessons to be able to act the part without suspicion when he was older? Or does that type of relationship not really need to be acted out?
2.1: I'm sure they do. Again, the myth has to be kept up around him.
2.2: Pretty sure that you don't have to act when you grow up with someone. Now, to suppress the suspicion, they'd have to pay him a hell of a lot, I'm sure.
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3) and you were an actor, what would you not cross the ethical/moral line on?
- Consider being in the role of Truman's father. Would you say yes to putting a kid through the real torment of loss and grief? How much money would it take you to do this?
I wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't even be able to be a regular town person on the show.
You realize that Truman doesn't get paid anything remotely what he should for how much the show brought in, right? I could not be a part of such exploitation, and I certainly couldn't lie to someone like that and sustain the lie for that long.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:07 pm to Pectus
I don't think that you would you know unless they were some suspicious reasons, such as the actress who tried to get Truman to learn the truth, but then a car picked her up on the beach. However, there needs to be a freak event or majorly botched scenario for someone to clue in.
I feel everyone saying that would figure it out easily is imagining them as Truman using top-down processing, which ruins the novelty of the concept of not knowing. Consider this: can you prove to me that your life is not taped as the subject as of a TV show? It is happening, no, but if it was, then I would believe that you would fail to recognize it as this is all you have ever known.
I feel everyone saying that would figure it out easily is imagining them as Truman using top-down processing, which ruins the novelty of the concept of not knowing. Consider this: can you prove to me that your life is not taped as the subject as of a TV show? It is happening, no, but if it was, then I would believe that you would fail to recognize it as this is all you have ever known.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 1:10 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah but certain individuals from Truman's world behave more suspiciously than others, which can serve as some slight frame of reference.
For people like us, certainly. You're looking at it through the lens of our world, rather than from Truman's point of view.
To us, the billboard with a different ad every day is odd, but to Truman, it's been that way his entire life and that's all he knows. In his world, billboards change ads daily.
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