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re: If Fantastic Four flops, do we see Doomsday getting pushed back?
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:08 pm to auyushu
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:08 pm to auyushu
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agree that the second Wonder Woman movie sucked so bad we should all pretend it doesn't exist, he was still in it
I completely forgot about that movie
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He's been pretty vocal politically lately, which will make him toxic to some
I haven't really followed him politically much but if you're referring to the trans thing he does have a sister that's trans so can't be surprised he'd stick up for her
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:08 pm to Handsome Pete
Nope, closer to 60% for Marvel, around 49% for DC.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:27 pm to Roaad
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4 losses (BNW, Thunderbolts, The Marvels, Quantumania)
I thought Thunderbolts was a winner. Did it drop off steeply?
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:29 pm to auyushu
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He's been pretty vocal politically lately, which will make him toxic to some.
Definitely an issue for some people. Going after a range of people from Trump to JK Rowling. If you are left of center those things won't bother you. Definitely a subjective opinion, just like people who consider Musk or Gina Carano problematic.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:34 pm to SoFla Tideroller
It’s not even going to reach captain falcon at the box office.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:35 pm to molsusports
That’s just one aspect of it but it’s the over saturation and miscasting of a mediocre actor that’s turning people off.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/31/25 at 6:10 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:Relative to it's budget? Yes.
The good news is that Agatha really overperformed.
As an MCU show? It was the 2nd least watched over Echo when it aired. Third after Daredevil
It cost no money, though
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One of the most frustrating stories for fans is that The Acolyte was cancelled after season 1 despite being the second best-performing show of the year. But there’s a really odd situation when it comes to Marvel shows on the other side.
Luminate says that with their viewership minutes, Agatha All Along and Echo, the #3 and #4 most-watched series of the year, were in fact still the two least-viewed MCU series to date.
That’s bad except in the context of Agatha specifically, it’s still…good? The main problem with these shows is that even with higher viewership, if your show does not outperform the expectations compared to its usually massive budget, it doesn’t matter. That’s certainly what we saw from The Acolyte, which was never going to justify its $180-230 million cost. Or Secret Invasion, which somehow cost a baffling $212 million.
The last 3 shows are Agatha, Daredevil, and Echo
The 3 least watched MCU shows
You can seek out all the silver lining you want, but you are making a "smartest retard/fastest cripple" argument here
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:08 pm to Roaad
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You can seek out all the silver lining you want, but you are making a "smartest retard/fastest cripple" argument here
I don't really understand why this continued to be a talking point in this thread, but marvel made a show with no mcu stars or well-known characters the third highest watched show on Disney plus last year. And they did it for pennies relative to every other marvel project.
Half of the posts on this board are bitch posts reminding us that these marvel films make no money due to high costs. Isn't Agatha exactly what Marvel should be striving for, at least on tv?
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:11 pm to Jay Are
I agree on Thunderbolts. I thought this was Marvel's best movie in quite a while.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:45 pm to Jay Are
quote:Yes you do
I don't really understand why this continued to be a talking point in this thread
quote:third lowest MCU show all time.
the third highest watched show on Disney plus
The fact that the competition also sucked last year doesn't bolster your point
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"smartest retard/fastest cripple" argument
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:49 pm to Patfic15
quote:Calling it a loser isn't a value judgement, but a success metric. It could have been Citizen Kane
I agree on Thunderbolts. I thought this was Marvel's best movie in quite a while.
That is not the point
If the movie is good, then that actually proves my point
People don't trust Marvel, so they don't show up.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:46 pm to Madking
quote:In your dreams. Something like 300 million people worldwide saw Avengers Endagame in theaters. Are you under the impression there are 150-200 million comic book readers out there? You need to get out of your bubble. In relative terms, nobody reads comic books.
Nope, closer to 60% for Marvel, around 49% for DC.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:52 pm to Handsome Pete
You think percentages in polling are made up of every person? You think Marvel fandom was created from scratch in 2008? What a moron
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:56 pm to Madking
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You percentages in polling people are made up of every person? What a moron
What are you talking about? The question was the "percentage of Marvel moviegoers who ever read a comic book". You said 60%. I used math on the number of people who saw just one Marvel movie. Seems straightforward.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:58 pm to Handsome Pete
No you didn’t use math, you threw a little ignorant fit. You don’t have a clue and the reasoning for your claims is completely ridiculous.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:00 pm to Madking
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No you didn’t use math, you threw a little ignorant fit. You don’t have a clue and the reasoning for your claims is completely ridiculous.
Go take your meds.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:01 pm to Handsome Pete
Case in point
Posted on 6/1/25 at 2:23 pm to Roaad
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Yes you do
I don't. And I wasn't blaming you for it.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 3:16 pm to Handsome Pete
quote:Read A comic book? 95% or higher. Almost everyone has read some comic, manga, or graphic novel
I think you grossly overestimate the percentage of Marvel moviegoers who ever read a comic book. I'd guess maybe 5%? Less?
Read a comic on the titular characters in a movie? probably >60%. . .less than 10% for the movie's writers
Read the comic storyline that is the basis for the plot? probably 10ish%. . .0% for anyone involved with the film
Posted on 6/1/25 at 3:22 pm to Jay Are
quote:Agatha did the right thing by being cheap
I don't. And I wasn't blaming you for it.
That is it's only saving grace
It overperformed, with respect to it's budget
Man that was so poorly written and directed. Effects were great, and performances were fine. Story made no sense,
Harkness' defining character traits were fluid scene-by-scene. That is a fatal problem for any protagonist, even an anti-hero. I don't think the actress was to blame. I think it was the director and the editor.
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