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re: How would you structure Star Wars IX?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:42 pm to Bankshot
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:42 pm to Bankshot
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I've got to say, at this point I just don't care if they make Episode IX. After the events of Episode VIII, if they didn't make another saga film, so be it.
The ending of Episode 8 feels like the end of a set of films in preparation for an entirely new trilogy.
The first Order blew up the Republic and took over the galaxy. Kylo Ren becomes Supreme leader.
A small band of resistance fighters (like 12 people) survive who, over time, will establish another rebellion to take back control of the galaxy. Hope for a re-established Jedi Order survives with the books Rey took from Acht-To.
I wouldn't be shocked if Episode 9 took place years after 8. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised either if it took place immediately after.
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:42 pm to WildManGoose
Then Kyle and Rey have a kid and the force is reborn in the bloodline.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:28 pm to BulldogXero
y'know, forgetting everything said by producers etc, and going JUST by the film...
I'm putting Luke into Ep IX. He gave Leia the dice, which she felt. So that meant that his Force projections were physically tangible, until they faded away.
I'm using that loophole, improbable as it may seem, to say Luke's entire time on the Jedi hermit planet was just a projection, too, one he maintained awhile for privacy's sake and to test Rey. So when "he" fades away, it's no more than when the dice do.
I'd emphasize this by having Chewie's space chickens disappear too. The entire planet was just one big mirage crafted by Luke, only the books were real (and why Luke guided Rey there in the first place).
He's actually somewhere else, very far away... and that's why he didn't go on the Falcon or his X Wing, which also wasn't really there. Wherever he is, it's far enough away that he couldn't really get to Leia and Kylo, so he did the ruse.
And "he" then disappears, because he pulls the plug on the mirages, packs his shite, and now he's really coming.
Afterall, his robotic arm vanished when he did, instead of falling to the ground.
Intentional loophole or not, if I'm making Ep 9, I'm going all-in to reinstate Luke to his rightful place, and I don't think the fans would object or nitpick. And if Rian Johnson calls to correct me, I'm hanging up on him. If I'm choosing between the desires of millions of loyal Star Wars fans and one movie producer, I'm siding with the fans.
I'm putting Luke into Ep IX. He gave Leia the dice, which she felt. So that meant that his Force projections were physically tangible, until they faded away.
I'm using that loophole, improbable as it may seem, to say Luke's entire time on the Jedi hermit planet was just a projection, too, one he maintained awhile for privacy's sake and to test Rey. So when "he" fades away, it's no more than when the dice do.
I'd emphasize this by having Chewie's space chickens disappear too. The entire planet was just one big mirage crafted by Luke, only the books were real (and why Luke guided Rey there in the first place).
He's actually somewhere else, very far away... and that's why he didn't go on the Falcon or his X Wing, which also wasn't really there. Wherever he is, it's far enough away that he couldn't really get to Leia and Kylo, so he did the ruse.
And "he" then disappears, because he pulls the plug on the mirages, packs his shite, and now he's really coming.
Afterall, his robotic arm vanished when he did, instead of falling to the ground.
Intentional loophole or not, if I'm making Ep 9, I'm going all-in to reinstate Luke to his rightful place, and I don't think the fans would object or nitpick. And if Rian Johnson calls to correct me, I'm hanging up on him. If I'm choosing between the desires of millions of loyal Star Wars fans and one movie producer, I'm siding with the fans.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:53 am to Scoob
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y'know, forgetting everything said by producers etc, and going JUST by the film... I'm putting Luke into Ep IX. He gave Leia the dice, which she felt. So that meant that his Force projections were physically tangible, until they faded away. I'm using that loophole, improbable as it may seem, to say Luke's entire time on the Jedi hermit planet was just a projection, too, one he maintained awhile for privacy's sake and to test Rey. So when "he" fades away, it's no more than when the dice do. I'd emphasize this by having Chewie's space chickens disappear too. The entire planet was just one big mirage crafted by Luke, only the books were real (and why Luke guided Rey there in the first place). He's actually somewhere else, very far away... and that's why he didn't go on the Falcon or his X Wing, which also wasn't really there. Wherever he is, it's far enough away that he couldn't really get to Leia and Kylo, so he did the ruse. And "he" then disappears, because he pulls the plug on the mirages, packs his shite, and now he's really coming. Afterall, his robotic arm vanished when he did, instead of falling to the ground. Intentional loophole or not, if I'm making Ep 9, I'm going all-in to reinstate Luke to his rightful place, and I don't think the fans would object or nitpick. And if Rian Johnson calls to correct me, I'm hanging up on him. If I'm choosing between the desires of millions of loyal Star Wars fans and one movie producer, I'm siding with the fans.
Best suggestion I've heard yet - hopefully Abrams third level assistant is fishing on the internet for ideas. Because while this doesn't fix all of the issue of the force projection, etc., it does fix part of it while also explaining some things about Luke and hopefully allowing him to kick some butt in the next movie.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:00 am to Tiger Ryno
Would scrap it all, Disney sell Star Wars to Marvel, those people then start making Star Wars films.
Such a great universe, so many possibilities, such ineptitude.
Such a great universe, so many possibilities, such ineptitude.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:28 am to Tigerstark
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Best suggestion I've heard yet - hopefully Abrams third level assistant is fishing on the internet for ideas. Because while this doesn't fix all of the issue of the force projection, etc., it does fix part of it while also explaining some things about Luke and hopefully allowing him to kick some butt in the next movie.
Except Rey and Leia felt Luke die through teh force
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:54 am to bamafan1001
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Would scrap it all, Disney sell Star Wars to Marvel, those people then start making Star Wars films.
Such a great universe, so many possibilities, such ineptitude.
I'm going to assume you're being funny haha
Posted on 3/23/18 at 12:05 pm to Rhames
Im assuming then that Disney already owns Marvel in some capacity.
Unfortunately I think SW is just doomed. I don’t really think there are creative storytellers who will ever have the reigns for SW ever again as long as Disney is in charge. Fortunately for Marvel, the creativity happened already.
Unfortunately I think SW is just doomed. I don’t really think there are creative storytellers who will ever have the reigns for SW ever again as long as Disney is in charge. Fortunately for Marvel, the creativity happened already.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:14 pm to bamafan1001
Yes. Disney owns marvel outside of a handful of characters, mostly Xmen.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:28 pm to Rhames
There needs to be a threat to "The Force". Maybe the Force starts to disappear from the universe. Maybe a 3'd party starts Force mining to use for planet creation or propulsion or something. The political angle is played out. Darth Vader/Kylo were merely tools used by the people in power, they never really held any real political power themselves. Kylo has shown no leadership or political abilities so his threat is limited to whatever room he happens to be in at the time. With the rebellion snuffed out and Snoke gone, our two primary force users are cast adrift. If either are going to be of any consequence, they need to be able to use the force more creatively, and not just for fighting/levitating.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:57 pm to bamafan1001
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Disney sell Star Wars to Marvel
Dude.
Disney owns Marvel.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:10 pm to BlacknGold
The last time I checked, there is a Skywalker as a main plot point. Kylo Rem ring a bell?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:55 pm to coonass73
I have a few ideas.
Hux is a secret sith lord? Rey and Kylo truly are kin? Time travel?
You know, if Kylo can drop in on Rey’s force DMs and Yoda can force bolt after being dead for 30 years who the frick knows or even cares what they do.
Hux is a secret sith lord? Rey and Kylo truly are kin? Time travel?
You know, if Kylo can drop in on Rey’s force DMs and Yoda can force bolt after being dead for 30 years who the frick knows or even cares what they do.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:32 pm to BulldogXero
quote:I'm pretty sure you can work that out in some way... say Luke is VERY far away. Leia couldn't sense him before, they could never find him. So now, as he's turned the projections off, "he's gone".
Best suggestion I've heard yet - hopefully Abrams third level assistant is fishing on the internet for ideas. Because while this doesn't fix all of the issue of the force projection, etc., it does fix part of it while also explaining some things about Luke and hopefully allowing him to kick some butt in the next movie.
Except Rey and Leia felt Luke die through teh force
Vader couldn't sense Obi Wan until he came to the Death Star. He and Luke were limited to basically within a planetary system. So if Luke is halfway across the galaxy, others can sense him if he focuses on projecting his presence. But when he turns that off, "he's gone".
Also, seems kind of fishy that Luke never sensed Kylo when he bonded with Rey; Luke otherwise seemed damn powered up. You can explain that also by saying Luke wasn't really there, he was focused on Rey only. Had he been in proximity, he'd have been able to tap into the bond.
I'm telling you, there is a window of opportunity to right the ship here. I would jump onto that with both feet, and damn the technicalities.
Posted on 3/24/18 at 4:24 am to Tiger Ryno
I would use a mid-30s Jacen Syndulla.
Posted on 3/24/18 at 9:01 am to Tiger Ryno
The only thing I can see is the two sides collaborating against a greater threat.
Posted on 3/24/18 at 10:10 am to Loungefly85
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Make the last movie all a dream like Dallas did.
As bad as it would be, having Luke's eyes open in front of twin suns sitting on the stones. This was all a force vision and he realizes that he must go and get involved again and when Rey shows up for training, he understands he must train her so they leave together and begin the training while going back to the resistance.
This leaves you with the head scratcher of what to do with Leia so you allow her to die with Kylo's attack on the capital ship like it should have happened to start with. You basically just use the first shot footage of the battle and end it with her floating in space like should have been done to start with.
Outside any of that, forcing the unification of the remnants against a common enemy and just chalking this trilogy up as a turd to set up the future of the franchise would be the best option.
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