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re: How long before 4K physical discs are obsolete?

Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:58 pm to
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SPOILER ALERT its a turrible idea to sit & rip a bunch of disks for plex.

Why?

And the answer shouldn't be "because you can download them illegally much easier"
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:08 pm to
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Why?

And the answer shouldn't be "because you can download them illegally much easier"
well you can definitely find much better copies than you'll ever create yourself.

Do you feel less illegal circumventing DVD/blu-ray anticopy measures on disks you own vs getting a proper rip somewhere else?
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Never. Streaming quality cannot come close to even Bluray and probably never will


You might want to look up remux.
Posted by pevetohead
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:30 pm to
4k streaming will never look better than 4k physical discs due to compression. I love physical media personally.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:39 pm to
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4k streaming will never look better than 4k physical discs due to compression. I love physical media personally.
you might want to look up remux
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:13 am to
Not for a while. No streaming service delivers true high fidelity 4K yet
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:36 am to


Ok
Posted by Tiger Vision
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:58 am to
-Buy yourself a NAS an plug it into your home network
-Rip your movies from disc.
-Setup a media server such as Plex, better yet some NAS devices come with built-in Plex.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:54 am to
I finally threw away my huge binder of pirated burned DVDs. Still holding on to my actual DVDs and blurays.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:16 am to
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I finally threw away my huge binder of pirated burned DVDs


good lord the amount of angst i had trying to rip DVDs way back when

- dvd-r or dvd+r? or dvd+-r?
- rewriteable dvds?
- 4x dvd media or 8x? 16x?
- double sided or single sided?



all in a nice 500-count DVD binder and half of them would have a problem with one dvd player or another.
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:25 am to
Well, count me as a disc defender. For the past 20 years I've purchased tons of stuff. My tastes veer towards vintage material, and I've accumulated at least over 400 tv-themed dvd-sets and well over 1500 movies. Have an empty, spare bedroom to house this library, so space hasn't been a problem. My collection is large enough now that I frankly have more than I could ever re-watch in my remaining lifetime. I'm thrilled with owning all this, and having so much material at my fingertips.

I've never been particularly keen on relying on broadcast/cable/streaming, as you're so subject to their whims. Much of what I like is really old and obscure things (going back to silent movies), and none of these options are particularly stellar in this regard. Add to all this the whole PC-woke mania going on and getting worse every year, from protests to squelch Charlie Chan movie airings, to syndication removals of episodes of "Beverly Hillbillies" (where Granny is waving a Confederate flag), to TCM's obvious shadow-banning of various old films they used to run. Just about anything 'vintage' seems to contain something that will elicit conniption fits with the younger generation of wokesters. And these are the very people now filling in the ranks of the HR departments of all these big-media conglomerates, which controls the content. Just looking at the writing on the wall, I find having a disc library the best and practically only way to go. Others with different interests and tastes might arrive at an opposite conclusion.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:34 am to
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I've accumulated at least over 400 tv-themed dvd-sets and well over 1500 movies

thats a nice archive if the FBI ever busts your door down and wants you to prove you own the media you're watching but its not that convenient. you are always at risk of losing disks, the dog chewing it up, the kids throwing one at the wall, the wife accidently throwing something out..and you're stuck with the quality you purchased.

having a digital library makes it much more 'at your fingertips' and i can watch my collection from anywhere on the planet on any device as well as my family & friends who each have their own account on my server.

Posted by pevetohead
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:53 am to
It’s my profession so I know what I’m talking about here. Discs do not have to compress in picture quality because it is not streaming via a Wi-Fi connection. I’m not saying streaming will look like potato quality, hell 90% of people probably don’t even care. But on a technical frames per second aspect, discs are far superior than streaming. Again this is not an opinion, but a common sense fact.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:58 am to
Hilariously, I got home yesterday and a tree limb had fallen on my cable line, severing my connection to the world wide web. Score a point for physical media.
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:38 pm to
To get more into the nitty-gritty, I think an appeal (for me) in maintaining a physical-media library of discs is the fact I'm not left 'reliant' on others. Certainly not the vagaries of a big, all-controlling corporation. Those studio giants have never liked the paradigm of people 'owning' copies of their works, going back to the early-VHS days. And, they're doing all they can to revert people to back away from this, into a continuing rate-payment system. Besides being just reliant to corporations and their fee systems and PC-related bannings, I'm also a little wary about things like wars and cyber-wars in the future, which could bring down much of the satellite/internet grid, and render things inaccessible. True, that's on the more paranoid end of the spectrum, but it's often crossed my mind.

I think a lot of the fear and wariness over this 'reliance on others' has to do with some generational experiences. I remember in the pre-dvd, pre-vhs, pre-cable days, when I'd catch some old movie rerun on a local station, which I might have liked. Say something like "King Kong," or maybe some neat Randolph Scott western. Might have really loved them. And I'd be dying to see them again. But year after year goes by, and they never reappear on local-tv. Many times I remember having to wait ten, twelve, fifteen years or more to finally get a chance to see them again. Those were long, long, exasperating waits. You can't imagine how much you find yourself thirsting to see something again. So when VHS and then DVD arrive, you can actually OWN these things, and hold them in your hands, and watch them any time you want. It was glorious! But one thing that NEVER leaves you... that grinding memory of being completely unable to see some favorite film or tv-series for years and years. That disquieting feeling still gnaws. Never goes away. So, it's just impossible to put all this in the hands of others, putting faith in outside corporate factors, cultural trends, global developments, and such. It makes one pretty darned devoted to physical hardware, that you can own, touch, hold in your hands.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Hilariously, I got home yesterday and a tree limb had fallen on my cable line, severing my connection to the world wide web. Score a point for physical media.
Plex works locally so there's that
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:09 pm to
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hey're pretty much obsolete for me now because I don't even have a DVD or Blu-Ray player connected to my TV anymore, I just stream everything.

I do acknowledge your point about being vulnerable to internet troubles but


You need to watch I Am Legend. I recommend it on 4K UHD DVD.
Posted by Palomitz
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:53 pm to
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For the past 20 years I've purchased tons of stuff. My tastes veer towards vintage material, and I've accumulated at least over 400 tv-themed dvd-sets and well over 1500 movies


I have a collection of movies and some tv-theme dvd sets, maybe 50 or 60 dvd's. They have been sitting inside my tv media cabinet for over 5 years. I have no purpose in keeping them since I already watched them. My wife tells me sell them, so if anybody is interested, send me a message for a list of dvd's.
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