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How is Darth Maul not higher on lists of Star Wars badassery?

Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:17 pm


I dont know in depth about the lore and history of that universe. I get that Vader is the face for this story to so many and rightfully so. Vader and the Emperor are up there..but I cant think what other Sith could have given Vader trouble.

Reading over what he is capable of,..or just things that he has already done.

Just some of his info

Even just what we have seen on film, took part in a 2 on 1 fight against two jedi to his disadvantage..yet, still beats them without cheating or getting any help.

Get cut in half and refuses to die. Collects himself, rises to become leader of a huge syndicate. You didnt see Tyranus doing that. He's able to resist force lightning, windu and Yoda couldnt do that.

So to fans of the story, who care about the characters. They had to backtrack to bring him back to life..so, Do you respect his overall character and feel that he is where he belongs or, that they dropped the ball with TPM on what could have potentially been one of the best star wars characters of all time?

Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:18 pm to
Because he was criminally-underutilized.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Because he was criminally-underutilized.




This. But also people don’t realize how badass he really is. He stalemated Obi Wan and Qui Gon and likely would have killed both if not for his arrogance
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:24 pm to
They really expand his character well in the Clone Wars.
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:24 pm to
Because GL should have averted expectations and let him escape in someway after killing Qui Gon and let Darth Maul carry over into Episode 2 detailing The Clone Wars
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:31 pm to
Because he was sliced in half and then came back to life

Kinda deflates his case
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:35 pm to
What I was thinking (and I havent seen the final star wars film but have heard some spoilers)..

Since the "Snoke" character was basically wasted in ways, and they brought maul back in solo and then brought back the emperor..

I would have kept "Snoke" just mentioned in the first. Shoruded in the 2nd..maybe revealing it at the end when ben betrays him, but he lives..going into the 3rd film and ending with a 2 on 1 battle of Rey and Ben vs Maul. Having Rey come from Obi Wan and forced into hiding to protect her from Maul who is and has been looking to erase Obi Wan's entire existence.

They fight to an updated duel of fates as Luke finally gets a 1 on 1 with the emperor..using the light saber he tossed away.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:36 pm to
He needs a Disney+ series or a role in a feature film (Solo sequel?)
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:44 pm to
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took part in a 2 on 1 fight against two jedi to his disadvantage..yet, still beats them without cheating or getting any help.


Weren't all the light sabres mostly the same and his was the first non conforming double beam to appear on screen?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:45 pm to
Mostly because all the stuff that came later. Fett had a lot of weird stuff attached to him too.

So they went from badasses to "we really have to scrub for the gems in this bantha shite."

Mail should have been the constant threat in the prequels. Fought him off for a loss of a Jedi. In the first, causes the slides for Anakin in the second, anakin takes over after defeating him in the third. The cost of it being the last thread cut to make him Vader.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:50 pm to
Not gonna lie, I never had a problem with Darth Maul being killed off in Phantom Menace. People just get a boner for his double-bladed lightsaber and wanted to see more of it.

Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:55 pm to
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Weren't all the light sabres mostly the same and his was the first non conforming double beam to appear on screen?


Yeah, but earlier in the film when it's a 1 on 1 he only ignites one side. And can apparently fight with a sabre in each hand too. Still cant get an advantage when its 2 on 1.

He fought mostly defensive in that, was constantly moving. Even had the high ground on obi wan.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:55 pm to
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and they brought maul back in solo
Maul was brought back in Clone Wars and greatly expounded on him. Solo took Maul from that.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:57 pm to
Wish that was a live action series.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:02 pm to
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He stalemated Obi Wan and Qui Gon and likely would have killed both if not for his arrogance


That's like saying Obi Wan or Qui Gon would have defeated him solo if not for the talent gap.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:03 pm to
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Because he was sliced in half and then came back to life 

Kinda deflates his case


How many characters you know can do that? Not only that, but then get back on top of a organized huge criminal syndicate?

Most mofos..best they could do is start a GoFundMe me and make a dr phil appearance.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:09 pm to
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should have been the constant threat in the prequels. Fought him off for a loss of a Jedi. In the first, causes the slides for Anakin in the second, anakin takes over after defeating him in the third. The cost of it being the last thread cut to make him Vader.


Would have enjoyed that..think it still needs to be Obi Wan to force Vader into Hatred, but it would have been cool to have Obi wan, Anakin and Maul there. Have something happen that was never mentioned with maul, but is ultimately devastating.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:14 pm to
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But also people don’t realize how badass he really is
Lost to a padawan.

Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:20 pm to
Killed a Master
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:22 pm to
Obi-wan does definitely need to be there.

It could have been something great. Anakin giving in to his anger. Obi-wan who had the original beef with Mail as the other side of the coin still seeking justice.

And after Maul is either killed or the body is lost out of sight. Then the Vader vs Obi-wan duel.
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