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re: House of the Dragon S1E7: “Driftmark”--Official Thread

Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:28 pm to
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The entire Realm knows R's kids are bastards. The marriage would have been a farce.


The kids are still Targaryen's, the Valeryons are fine with it and the Hightowers become the third most powerful family in the land with a succession line that includes a Hightower on the throne and continual access to dragons due to the marriage into Targaryen bloodlines.

No one could even think of seriously challenging that.

Aegon wants nothing to do with the throne anyways, remember, Alicent literally had to start poisoning his mind with her paranoia to try and align him with her.

You couldn't conceive of a more amicable solution for all party's, but that Alicent, never one to let a great utilitarian solution get in the way of her single-minded vindictiveness...

This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:29 pm to
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I don't know about all that. They are pretty evenly matched.


One thing in a joust/tourny another in the heat of a fight. Plus Daemon was already scanning the room for threats and the best position to be in where as Cole still using his anger towards the princess to cloud his judgement.

If Cole would have step towards the child and the princess Daemon would have cut off his head before he knew what was going on.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:33 pm to
I don’t think it would be that easy. Cole and Daemon are probably the two best fighters left. Harwin Strong was considered the strongest and in the book Cole beat him.
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:33 pm to
I think you are ascribing more sword skills to Daemon than has been established.

After his campaign in the Step Stones he probably leveled up from his tourney days for sure, but Cole is established as a well seasoned, elite swordsman of the highest order in this era.

I think it would at most an even match at this point, but I would be lean-Cole in a fair fight. Key word a "fair fight" since I dont think Daemon would be stupid enough to chase a fair fight before exhausting other options.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:37 pm to
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You can always kill the kid and now a new rider could have the dragon. Just saying



Well yeah that's an option
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:45 pm to
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You can always kill the kid and now a new rider could have the dragon. Just saying


According to Alicent's logic about an eye for an eye, that sounds fair.

Alicent's house stole a dragon expected to first attempt to bond within the family, Rhaenyra gets to take one of Alicent's now, and since the only way to break a bond most of the time is death, thems your rules lol
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Alicent's house stole a dragon expected to first attempt to bond within the family, Rhaenyra gets to take one of Alicent's now, and since the only way to break a bond most of the time is death, thems your rules lol



That isn't really how it works. Maybe I missed them mentioning this on the show, but it definitely isn't something that happens in the book. Dragons aren't like crowns with succession plans. Vhagar was basically a free agent. If Aemond didn't attempt this, and Vhagar rejected Baela, Vhagar could've just lived the bachelorette life eating sheep and sleeping all day.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Boodis Man


Gotta say this guy is very consistent with his username... The dedication is noted
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:05 pm to
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That isn't really how it works. Maybe I missed them mentioning this on the show, but it definitely isn't something that happens in the book. Dragons aren't like crowns with succession plans. Vhagar was basically a free agent. If Aemond didn't attempt this, and Vhagar rejected Baela, Vhagar could've just lived the bachelorette life eating sheep and sleeping all day.




FYI I was just being facetious
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:06 pm to
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FYI I was just being facetious


Well, that's no fun.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:10 pm to
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We've already witnessed Cole besting Daemon in a fight.

You mean when daemon put Cole on the ground and then turned his back to him and yelled at the crowd allowing cole to get back up and hit him in the back?

Daemon won the fight but was dumb for not making cole yield before celebrating. Was a lot like oberyn vs the mountain.

And now daemon has been at war for 10 years while cole has been Alicents lapdog. No doubt daemon is a better fighter
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:17 pm to
I actually had remembered the fight the opposite, but you are correct.

I actually change my opinion, I'd be lean Daemon at this point in a fair fight(still think Daemon would avoid that at all costs, cause Daemon dont give a frick about honor).
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:36 pm to
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he faced his cousins, who humiliated and bullied him last episode.
i guess we didnt watch the same thing cause that was Aegon who was humiliating him.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:57 pm to
why do they have to have so many names that sound the same?

why can't they be john and steve and bob and carl?



also, daemon went into the cave and cut that crab guy in half so, there's that.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:03 pm to
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why do they have to have so many names that sound the same?


Just wait until a couple of characters have the same name. Although, I could see them changing that like they did with Osha and Asha in AGOT.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:09 pm to
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Just wait until a couple of characters have the same name. Although, I could see them changing that like they did with Osha and Asha in AGOT.



Apparently they are not going to do that this time according to Condal, so yeah, could get interesting.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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76321 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:19 pm to
also, folks are a pretty tough in these times. Get you arm sliced with a a dagger and react like she scratched you with her fingernail.

and cut your lip as part of the wedding ceremony? seems like it would put a damper on the honeymoon festivities.

Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13434 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:21 pm to
Cutting the hand open to seal a bond always bugs me. You can do serious nerve damage to your hand and ruin your ability to grip a weapon. How about you do a superficial cut and let the blood drip down to your hands.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:21 pm to
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why do they have to have so many names that sound the same?
have you watched The Last Kingdom?

you got:

Aelswith
Aldhelm
Aethelflaed
Aethelhelm
Aethelwold
Aethelred
Aelflaed
Aethelstan
Aelfwynn
Aelfweard
Aelfric
Uhtred
Uhtred Son of Uhtred (dies)
then Uhtred Son of Uhtred again.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76321 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:26 pm to
right, a busted lip and a sliced hand seems like a bad way to go into the honeymoon.
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