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re: House of the Dragon S1E2--Official Thread; “The Rogue Prince”

Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:46 am to
This board is gong to dislike that actress I think. They are nonbinary. Looks a lot like the current princess though. Their picture is on promo material.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:54 am to
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They are nonbinary.
She was born female to avoid any confusion. It took me much longer than I expected to find this info
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:55 am to
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Also Corlys Velaryon may not have a dragon but his wife does though
his kids have them also (I think)
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:56 am to
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They are nonbinary
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Their picture
sheep arse pussy

So, the story originally had Hightower simply going to Dragonstone and getting the egg back, but it looks like HBO pulled a Rey Palpatine and went full Mary Sue.

The wheels are falling off. The ghouls are revealing themselves.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:58 am to
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So, the story originally had Hightower simply going to Dragonstone and getting the egg back, but it looks like HBO pulled a Rey Palpatine and went full Mary Sue.
I like the change.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:59 am to
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I see why the hand sent his daughter to the king's room after his wife and child died. Last week i just thought it was weird but now i see he was plotting.


I thought it was pretty obvious he was plotting to get his daughter to hook up with the King, he practically stated it out loud when he sent her.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:01 am to
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There was no chance that was ending any other way than all of their deaths by dragon if Rhaenyra hadn’t showed up.
Except they weren't going to get roasted. They had sheathed their swords and were about to leave in defeated disgrace. Going in without a dragon was foolish and gave them no chance of victory, but the defeat was going to be an embarrassing retreat without retrieving the egg.

Not sure if the King showing up with a dragon would've been any better. The Princess showed restraint and diplomacy. From what we've seen of the King, he might have let his brother goad him into a fight.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:03 am to
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Imagine if you didn’t read any books or watch the original GoT. After 2 episodes, I would give up.


There is absolutely nothing about this show that requires knowledge of anything else to understand what is going on. Sure it would enhance your viewing if you watched GoT or read the books, but it certainly isn't necessary.
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:07 am to
Somehow for me this episode's memorable scene was the king talking to the twelve year old girl and her "not until I'm fourteen" comment.

Creeped me out, big time.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:08 am to
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but it looks like HBO pulled a Rey Palpatine and went full Mary Sue.


You sure you know what a Mary Sue is? She flew a dragon and talked Valyrian with her uncle, both things already demonstrated in the show.

I don't like the show but this take is ridiculous


Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:13 am to
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So, the story originally had Hightower simply going to Dragonstone and getting the egg back, but it looks like HBO pulled a Rey Palpatine and went full Mary Sue.

The wheels are falling off. The ghouls are revealing themselves.
bruv. that scene had more to do with the relationship between Rhaenyra and Daemon's relationship than being "woke"
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:13 am to
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Creeped me out, big time.
clearly creeped the king out too.
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:14 am to
"Mary Sue" "Deus Ex"

Do some of you even know what these terms actually mean?

Nothing in that scene fits either of those descriptions.

Episode 1 and 2 pretty clearly establishes Rhaenyra as a very capable dragon rider and smart beyond her years in navigating family and court politics with a bit of naivety that leads to good and bad over confidence. That her and Daemon have a complicated relationship but not one of pure hate, for now. And that scene was set up through episode 1 and 2 from Rhaenyra's desire to prove herself and also rebel against her father trying to isolate her. Daemon wanting to embarass and show Viserys as weak but not start a full on war, Rhaenyra clearly understands the need to show commensurate force to threats. Like picking Cole cause he actually has experience where it matters.

The show also established Viserys to be, well, a terrible king in the ways of statecraft and strategy. He's benign in all the ways you'd want a king if you were a citizen under his rule, but in Martin's world, weakness and ruling by emotion and not good politics gets you and others killed(See: Rob Stark).
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:14 am to
Enjoying this series so far. I went into ep. 1 with a somewhat negative attitude, ready to nit pick. However, I'm all in now. Great episode 2, and I am ready for more.

This series and the universe has a tone of potential.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:16 am to
Dude, they made her a lesbian superchick. Step away from the forest.

It's not a bad show. It looks great and the acting is good. Honestly, I think a lot of it is GoT fatigue. It's hard to give a shite about this world, given what happened, so when anything resembling their usual activist routine pops up, it's amplified.

But hey, I'm still here, though there was once again a shocking lack of titties.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:19 am to
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Dude, they made her a lesbian superchick


Because she can ride a dragon? She's not the only female in the show who can ride a dragon
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:22 am to
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Dude, they made her a lesbian superchick. Step away from the forest.


You keep calling her lesbian but there’s been nothing on the show to establish she’s lesbian (or Alicent, like you claimed before).

And to add to your “Mary Sue” criticism, Hightower has already shown he is in for the elevation of his family.

The scene where they’re picking the next Kingsguard showed he was less concerned about having a competent soldier to defend his current King (and in the future, Rhaenyra) and more about picking the Knight with the strongest connections that will support HIS family. He’s not flawless.

It makes sense she wouldn’t trust him to get the job done.

This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 9:23 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:23 am to
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But hey, I'm still here, though


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You keep calling her lesbian but there’s been nothing on the show to establish she’s lesbian (or Alicent, like you claimed before).
tbf i think she is but not like there's anything wrong with it, it doesn't take away from anything with her character.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:23 am to
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This board is gong to dislike that actress I think.


They are the only part of this show that scares me. They have very little acting experience and will probably be the weakest actor on the show.The current version is probably the best part of the show for me right now. She's knocking this out of the park after 2 episodes
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 9:23 am to
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This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 9:24 am
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