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re: HOTD S1 Book Reader *Spoiler* thread Will contain leaked EP 10 spoilers BEWARE
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:59 pm to Sus-Scrofa
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:59 pm to Sus-Scrofa
For like two seconds. I don’t see why they would put this into the show.
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:04 pm to Boodis Man
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For like two seconds. I don’t see why they would put this into the show.
You don’t think the Hour of the Wolf will be included? I’d be surprised if it wasn’t.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:17 pm to Indefatigable
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You don’t think the Hour of the Wolf will be included? I’d be surprised if it wasn’t.
before the hour of the wolf, cregan stark only has one scene in the entire story if i remember correctly.
how can they conclude the entire series with basically an unknown character stepping in, taking control of everthing and wrapping things up himself?
that doesn't sound like a very satisfying conclusion to me
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:21 pm to Boodis Man
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before the hour of the wolf, cregan stark only has one scene in the entire story if i remember correctly.
how can they conclude the entire series with basically an unknown character stepping in, taking control of everthing and wrapping things up himself?
that doesn't sound like a very satisfying conclusion to me
I agree. I thought it was interesting in the book how he basically took control of the 7 kingdoms for a while then returned north as you would expect a Stark to do. However, I don't think it will be very interesting television. It will be like people that never read LOTR wondering why ROTK won't just end already.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:21 pm to Boodis Man
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that doesn't sound like a very satisfying conclusion to me
Sounds exactly like a GRRM show on HBO.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:34 pm to Boodis Man
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how can they conclude the entire series with basically an unknown character stepping in, taking control of everthing and wrapping things up himself?
They would obviously introduce him during his march south over the final season, and meeting up with the riverlords and vale forces. The show has plenty of latitude to provide more color/introduction for those characters that appear late in the Dance--they are going to have to because all of the current main characters die before we get to the end. He's also likely going to be in this week's episode, or the early episodes of S2 as well.
He's instrumental in taking KL and getting Aegon III anointed, so I would be pretty shocked if it were omitted. I can't think of any alternative to telling that story.
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that doesn't sound like a very satisfying conclusion to me
I don't really know what you mean. The Black Army ending the Dance taking Kings Landing and putting Rhaenyra's son on the throne sounds about like an ending fitting of the story.
What else are yall wanting to see?
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:39 pm to Indefatigable
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He's instrumental in taking KL and getting Aegon III anointed, so I would be pretty shocked if it were omitted. I can't think of any alternative to telling that story.
I guess you could say that he was instrumental in the fear that his northmen caused, but by the time they got there, everything was over already.
ETA: I may be mixing up the Riverlords and the northern army. I know one or both showed up at the gates and they were already open. The war pretty much ended with Larys and Corlys orchestrating the murder of Aegon II.
His role was mostly punishing the people that killed Aegon II. His army came down to die to avoid troubling their families during winter. Instead, many of the northmen left for Essos or went to the Riverlands to help where needed.
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The Black Army ending the Dance taking Kings Landing and putting Rhaenyra's son on the throne sounds about like an ending fitting of the story.
They also married him to Alicent's granddaughter. Although, that didn't work out so well.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:43 pm to Indefatigable
That is a shite ending no matter how u slice it.
A likeable character like Bran ending up on the Throne sounded like a great ending in theory also, but we all now know how awful things can unfold to get to that point.
I predict the show changes things up and has daemon play a role in the ending since the book is ambiguous on whether he lives/dies.
A likeable character like Bran ending up on the Throne sounded like a great ending in theory also, but we all now know how awful things can unfold to get to that point.
I predict the show changes things up and has daemon play a role in the ending since the book is ambiguous on whether he lives/dies.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:44 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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Yeah, but then the Starks/Northerners show up
And I read something earlier where Winterfell will be in the next season. So they’re not going to exclude the Starks.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:47 pm to Boodis Man
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That is a shite ending no matter how u slice it.
Yea I don't get that at all. How else would it end besides one side taking KL?
We'll just agree to disagree on that being a bad ending. Its pretty much how every analogous war in history ended.
It also has the added benefit of actually, you know, being the ending
. Its nothing like the shite show GoT ending that had no basis in the source material. This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:54 pm to Indefatigable
You can have daemon sneaking around in his hoodie sleeping people and wreaking havoc on the greens. You can have him poison aegon II instead of corlys/larys. You can have him tracking down viserys II and bringing him back to Westeros to reunite with Aegon III.
you can do all kinds of stuff instead of having an unfamiliar character like cregan orchestrate the ending .
you can do all kinds of stuff instead of having an unfamiliar character like cregan orchestrate the ending .
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:59 pm to Boodis Man
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you can do all kinds of stuff instead of having an unfamiliar character like cregan orchestrate the ending .
You're presupposing that the show won't introduce these characters beforehand and follow them throughout the war. I am not making that assumption. The show has tons of room to explore all of that and show those people/their activities.
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viserys II
Que? I don't think Viserys returned until a few years into Aegon III's reign. The show will end before that time, I don't think we're even going to get the regency (other than the wedding to Helaena and the coronation).
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 4:13 pm to Boodis Man
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You can have him tracking down viserys II and bringing him back to Westeros to reunite with Aegon III.
I'd rather they stuck to the books and have Allyn Oakfist do this. His character is awesome and will probably be a fan favorite in the last couple of seasons. Although, like someone else said, I doubt they go too far into Aegon III's regency. So, a lot of Oakfist's deeds will be after the show completes.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 4:13 pm to Indefatigable
The show has made clear that they don’t plan to adhere to the same timescale as in the books.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 4:15 pm to Boodis Man
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The show has made clear that they don’t plan to adhere to the same timescale as in the books.
In what way? I was fairly certain that everything so far is tracking pretty accurately timeline wise. They have also stated that the show will only cover the Dance, so I just don't see why they would choose to show something beyond that when it isn't necessary to do so to wrap the story.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 4:49 pm to Sus-Scrofa
quote:They really need to nail Cregan. He will be the one people cling to and root for for sure.
Yeah, but then the Starks/Northerners show up
Posted on 10/19/22 at 4:59 pm to putt23
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Maybe they move it up I don't know if they knew it'd be as popular as it's been. I was hoping it'd be good, but it has exceeded my expectations big time.
I'm wondering how the episode ends. Is Daemon away and sends Raeynera a message about justice, or if they change that a little. What dragon is Daemon singing to?
According to the leaks it ends with Daemon telling Rhaenyra about Luke dying and then saying she has war in her eyes.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:00 pm to Indefatigable
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In what way? I was fairly certain that everything so far is tracking pretty accurately timeline wise. They have also stated that the show will only cover the Dance, so I just don't see why they would choose to show something beyond that when it isn't necessary to do so to wrap the story.
off the top of my head, joffrey is 3 years old in the books when aemond claims the dragon. in this show he was an infant.
luke/jace are being portrayed as older in the show as they are in the book.
corlys is supposed to be 70-ish but doesn't look that old other than gray hair.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:01 pm to Indefatigable
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In what way? I was fairly certain that everything so far is tracking pretty accurately timeline wise. They have also stated that the show will only cover the Dance, so I just don't see why they would choose to show something beyond that when it isn't necessary to do so to wrap the story.
Not exactly. The show started in AC 111 but is now in at least AC 131 (4 year skip + 10 year skip + at least a 6 year skip). The Dance started in AC 129
110 AC: Aemma dies, Rhaenyra named successor
111 AC: Vis marries Ali, Daemon + Velaryon go to war against Crabs
114 AC: Daemon kills Crabs
115 AC: Daemon returns to KL
125 AC: E6 and E7
131 AC: Rhaenys says it's been at least 6 years since Corlys left
Now 111 could still be in 110 since they said only 5-6 months had passed since Aemma's death.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:08 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
I get that they are up or down aging characters for casting purposes, and that the dates may not line up exactly due to that, but they aren’t taking major events out of timeline order in the way the other poster was suggesting they would have to do to bring Viserys II back before the series ended.
The sequencing and story is still going in order and tracking accurately, even if minor details like ages are changed within that framework.
The sequencing and story is still going in order and tracking accurately, even if minor details like ages are changed within that framework.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 5:10 pm
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