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re: Hollywoke wants Gov't bail out after backing those who shut down economy
Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:35 am to dawgfan24348
Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:35 am to dawgfan24348
There is a plan. Sweden didn't shut down. That's the plan we needed. The plan the world needed.
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:37 am to Scruffy
State governments looked to the Fedgov for guidance.
Fedgov says they should shut down.
Why do y’all bend over backwards to excuse the Fedgov role in this?
Fedgov says they should shut down.
Why do y’all bend over backwards to excuse the Fedgov role in this?
Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:43 am to Salmon
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Why do y’all bend over backwards to excuse the Fedgov role in this?
You know why.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 10:47 am to Salmon
Gov's Cuomo and Newsom shut down, but other states, like Montana, didn't. Other states, like FL and GA, opened up ' early '. Things are fine.
They can't even agree on a national mask mandate. There's no LAW which requires the economy to shut down.
They can't even agree on a national mask mandate. There's no LAW which requires the economy to shut down.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:07 am to AURaptor
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Yeah, China has opened up its theaters
And shut them down again, and opened them again.
The state and city governments will not allow filming. There are plenty of production employees just living on production company dime in Nola right now, waiting to be allowed to work.
I'm not arguing for a bailout, but your reasoning is just straight retarded. Hollywood studios want money, and they have fought with local governments to get back to work. That's why there are some productions happening in certain spots in the country (and world).
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:19 am to AURaptor
Remember when a bunch of celebrities sang a tone deaf rendition of Imagine, and everyone mocked them for it? That was fun.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:23 am to AURaptor
Double Post
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:31 am to AURaptor
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Things are fine.
I'd like to hear from some theater owners or some economic analysis that says that the theater business in those states are "fine".
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There's no LAW which requires the economy to shut down.
Nobody said there was
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:39 am to AURaptor
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Hollywoke wants Gov't bail out after backing those who shut down economy
Why? The shutdown THEY pushed proved we didn’t need them. It’s not our fault they’re retards
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:40 am to Salmon
quote:Initially.
Fedgov says they should shut down.
Places like CA, NYC, and a few others, are going above and beyond what was recommended, and what is currently recommended.
I, personally, believe that Trump’s support for a shutdown was the worst thing he did in his 4 years.
We are now beyond that point.
This continued shutdown in places like CA and NYC are on the states now.
If Hollywood wants a bailout, they should look to Newsom for help.
I do not think taxes obtained from the citizens of LA, MS, FL, TX, etc., should be used.
IMO, this is akin to Minneapolis asking for federal funding after they permitted rioting, looting, and wanton destruction.
State’s problem.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:49 am to Scruffy
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Initially.
Ummm no. The Fedgov is still sending out weekly reports to states and recommending that they remain shut down, or in some cases, impose more restrictions.
That is still happening to this very day.
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If Hollywood wants a bailout, they should look to Newsom for help.
Maybe if you would read the article and not just the Politard headline, you would realize this isn't just about Hollywood, but about theater business across the entire country.
Theaters, across the country, were some of the last businesses that were allowed to be opened.
The reality if that your and my tax dollars are going to go to helping these businesses in some way, so I have no problem with them going to help the theater business as well.
We are already going to bail out farmers, airlines, and other businesses.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:53 am to Salmon
quote:So, the current situation is MI, NYC, CA, etc., are all based on recommendations from the federal government?
Ummm no. The Fedgov is still sending out weekly reports to states and recommending that they remain shut down, or in some cases, impose more restrictions.
Cuomo’s recent re-shutdown of schools and religious institutions was fed-backed?
Whitmer’s stances and actions are all fed-backed?
quote:Do you have specific examples?
That is still happening to this very day.
quote:I know it isn’t just about Hollywood, but Hollywood is a focus, and the one I commented on.
Maybe if you would read the article and not just the Politard headline, you would realize this isn't just about Hollywood, but about theater business across the entire country.
quote:I do.
The reality if that your and my tax dollars are going to go to helping these businesses in some way, so I have no problem with them going to help the theater business as well.
quote:Against that too.
We are already going to bail out farmers, airlines, and other businesses.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:57 am to Salmon
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Theaters, across the country, were some of the last businesses that were allowed to be opened.
This is just false. According to the WH guidelines theaters are allowed to open with physical distancing in place in phase TWO. But then the states and supreme leaders like JBE make their own rules that hurt their own movie theaters and don't allow them to open so stop pinning everything on the federal government when you are wrong.
white house phases
Posted on 10/7/20 at 11:58 am to Scruffy
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So, the current situation is MI, NYC, CA, etc., are all based on recommendations from the federal government?
Cuomo’s recent re-shutdown of schools and religious institutions was fed-backed?
Whitmer’s stances and actions are all fed-backed?
I don't know.
I do know that not too long ago the FedGov was recommending LA be more shut down than we were.
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Do you have specific examples?
Yeah. Louisiana a few weeks ago.
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Against that too.
In normal situations I would be too. This wasn't normal situations.
Scruffy wasn't affected financially by shut downs, so its easy for Scruffy to act principled.
I think if Scruffy's business was shut down, he might have different opinions.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:01 pm to LoneStar23
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This is just false.
...no it isn't.
Yes, theaters were allowed to open in Phase II in a very limited capacity, while a lot of other businesses were allowed to open in Phase I or even during shut downs.
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so stop pinning everything on the federal government when you are wrong.
I'm not pinning everything on the Fedgov
I'm saying that they played a role in all of this as well. Some seem to want to completely ignore their role and absolve them of everything. It's completely dishonest.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:03 pm to Salmon
quote:I would like a link to that.
I do know that not too long ago the FedGov was recommending LA be more shut down than we were.
quote:False.
Scruffy wasn't affected financially by shut downs, so its easy for Scruffy to act principled.
Scruffy was affected.
Again, in regards to the continued shutdown of specific industries in places like CA, particularly the movie industry, which has downstream impacts on movie theaters and other businesses, that is on the state governments.
And as the post before you pointed out, these locations are deviating from the federal governments recommendations.
Because of that, the states should be held accountable.
If they go above and beyond the recommendations, why should the federal government receive blame?
The federal government deserves blame for pushing the idea at all, but my blame for them ends there.
They are recommendations.
The states are free to make their own decisions, and should carry the weight of those decisions.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:03 pm to Salmon
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I'm saying that they played a role in all of this as well. Some seem to want to completely ignore their role and absolve them of everything. It's completely dishonest.
I think they did play a minor role but a majority of the decisions that affect the theaters are directly made by the governor's and mayor's offices. These people have destroyed their economies banking on handouts from the feds. It's a dangerous and wreckless form of governing
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:06 pm to Scruffy
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I would like a link to that.
You can Google all the WH Task Force reports for LA and read them for yourself.
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If they go above and beyond the recommendations, why should the federal government receive blame?
And the states that didn't go above and beyond?
Y'all keep focusing on a select few states and ignore all the others, why?
Did theaters in the other states not suffer economic losses?
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:07 pm to LoneStar23
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I think they did play a minor role
GTFO
Y'all are such hacks.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:07 pm to Salmon
I suspect you're doing this on purpose. Intentionally missing the point, I mean.
I never said the THEATRE businesses in these states were 'fine'. Regal cinemas just shut down, FFS. But the 'vid isn't running rampant across these OPEN states, as the economy pushes forwards. There's no overflowing hospitals, no run on ventilators, the curve has been flattened, and continues to trend lower and lower.
The REAL reason isn't medical, it's legal. These companies don't want to get sued on the off chance someone catches the 'vid and then dies.
Assuming anyone could prove they caught the bug at the movies, and not anywhere before or after.
Good grief.
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I'd like to hear from some theater owners or some economic analysis that says that the theater business in those states are "fine".
I never said the THEATRE businesses in these states were 'fine'. Regal cinemas just shut down, FFS. But the 'vid isn't running rampant across these OPEN states, as the economy pushes forwards. There's no overflowing hospitals, no run on ventilators, the curve has been flattened, and continues to trend lower and lower.
The REAL reason isn't medical, it's legal. These companies don't want to get sued on the off chance someone catches the 'vid and then dies.
Assuming anyone could prove they caught the bug at the movies, and not anywhere before or after.
Good grief.
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