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re: HIS DARK MATERIALS Season Long Thread - S1 Ep8: "Betrayal" Season Finale

Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:27 pm to
Hail Satan!
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:02 am to
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Now the kids don’t want to go to church anymore.
Just as the Dark Lord planned it.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:29 am to
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Pullman is quoted as saying: "I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief


He'll never be as successful as the Catholic Church, but you have to admire his ambition.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:07 am to
Well most christians are Catholic 1.2 billion to 1.1 billion all the splitters.

Priest issues aside it remains the most successful branch.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:10 am to
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I don't remember flipperarms being in the book.


Who/what was flipperarms in the show? I cant think of who you're talking about
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:10 am to
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Well, we watched it. Now the kids don’t want to go to church anymore


Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:14 am to
1.2 billion that make weekly contributions to molestation settlements and ignoring the 2nd commandment. Like I said, undermining Christianity.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:31 am to
Pretty much doing the same with any church.

If you're trying to do the Saints break the second commandment then you're off the theological reservation of what saints are. Everyone that dies and goes to heaven is a Saint. It's the entire purpose of All Saints Day. To recognize and remember the dead.

Canonized Saints are just for emulation and are usually given some sorta theme to help with the lesson.

Praying to the saints is actually asking the saints to pray with you to God. Since as stated earlier he is an omnipresence. It's just asking for more voices to join with you or for God to allow guidance. So at worst you're performing low-key necromancy to praise God and if really used as suggested it's simply meditative prayer with a focus at the problem or praise at hand, since y'know emulation.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:57 am to
One of John Faa's boys. No arms, just shoulders and hands.

He never spoke, so it may just be inclusional casting. Given they're "gypsies," maybe some irregular genetics at play, so it's believable.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:05 am to
It's been so long since I read I didnt know if it was just pulled from a crowd scene.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:01 am to
I read it pretty recently but I do have a really bad memory, but I dont remember anybody with no arms.

The biggest difference in that episode compared to the book, to me (not spoiling anything), is what they were using to snatch the kids up with. But it made sense because it creates a little more drama using the fox instead of something different.

Also, her uncle was a little nicer to her than the show made it out to be. Not that big of a deal but he did show some concern for her well being and asked if she was being treated good. This kind of made him about to be a straight up jerk.

It's just one episode but overall I thought they did a nice job.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:01 am to
Should I put in the title "no book spoilers"?
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:59 pm to
may need to rewatch the ep....

I still feel fairly lost
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 2:00 pm to
People who just reflexively reject the book/show based on their beliefs miss out on a very interesting and well-told story IMO and one that everyone can reflect on and perhaps grow from.

Regardless of your religious affiliation, it is factually accurate to say that religious organizations have a long, storied history of preying on people's ignorance and fears to obtain power, as well as attempting to suppress truth to protect that power.

That's not saying that God doesn't exist. That's saying that religion hasn't always been a pure force for good.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:48 pm to
Just watched the first episode. Incredible
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:55 pm to
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The writer is a garbage human being.


Don't know about that, but I've seen some of his interviews and the guy is definitely a douche. I really have no interest in reading or watching any of his shite based on that alone.

Ya know, there are a thousand very good series out there to make into film . . . why rehash the same old crap over and over.

I don't get it.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 6:56 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 11:28 am to
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Ya know, there are a thousand very good series out there to make into film . . . why rehash the same old crap over and over.

I don't get it.


What is being rehashed?

Just rewatched the episode. Was definitely better the second time. The kid who plays Roger is awesome.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 11:29 am to
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may need to rewatch the ep....

I still feel fairly lost


Yea its worth a rewatch. What part lost you? Might be able to help.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:31 pm to
I saw the movie years ago. Saw episode 1 and found it confusing. Why was the master going to poison Asriel? Was Lyra really safe in Oxford? Who are the Gobblers? Is the Magisterium the religion or the gov't or both?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:40 pm to
Episode 2:
- The Idea of North
"Lyra arrives to her new life in London, determined to find Roger with Mrs. Coulter's help; the Gyptians continue their search for the missing children and the elusive Gobblers."
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