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re: HBO’s ‘Game of Thrones’ Prequel Will Explore ‘Internalized Misogyny’ and ‘Patriarchy’
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:31 pm to Bronc
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:31 pm to Bronc
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s that men should have a superior place to woman
Men are responsible for civilization itself.
Men blaze trails, build and kill things.
Men build cities, create engines, put satellites in orbit, build roads, build the very INFRASTRUCTURE that allows a Communist like you to bitch about the very lifestyle you could not do without.
Women tend to nest.
Men could easily build an entire city with zero input from a woman.
Women could not.
If we were to narrow it down specifically, European men are responsible for the creation or improvement of every sing thing worth having in your life.
You're welcome.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:58 pm to oogabooga68
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Men are responsible for civilization itself.
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Men could easily build an entire city with zero input from a woman.
Women could not.
But could they populate it.
Ironically, we also outnumber you at this point.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But could they populate it.
Since men are overwhelmingly responsible for feeding the planet, we could just barter that out......
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Ironically, we also outnumber you at this point.
Congrats on being born?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:07 pm to oogabooga68
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Men are responsible for civilization itself. Men blaze trails, build and kill things. Men build cities, create engines, put satellites in orbit, build roads, build the very INFRASTRUCTURE that allows a Communist like you to bitch about the very lifestyle you could not do without. Women tend to nest. Men could easily build an entire city with zero input from a woman. Women could not. If we were to narrow it down specifically, European men are responsible for the creation or improvement of every sing thing worth having in your life. You're welcome.
I am glad you helped cut through the thinly veiled layer of bullshite from the last 10 pages and laid bare what this shite is really about…you are in fact just angry that the world doesn’t stand behind your 14th century ideas of social roles and gender subservience and it triggers you little whiny fricks to no end that the majority of the country, and especially those that hold cultural power in film and tv, dont either
So you whine and cry cause the people with cultural power in America dont agree with your patriarchal racist bullshite and it pisses you off to no end when people call it out for the backwards ignorance it is.
FYI: you are typing into a device that’s underlying programming language was rooted in Ada Lovelace and Grace Hooper’s discoveries in computer algorithms and programming and likely connected through a Wi-Fi that Hedy Lamar invented.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:23 pm to Bronc
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cause the people with cultural power in America
That "cultural power" is useless without the printing press....you're welcome.
That "cultural power" is useless without incandescent light to read and write by.....you're welcome.
That "cultural power" is useless without rockets putting satellites in orbit.....you're welcome....
Funny thing is that all these literary works we are talking about only sell because they focus on very masculine, Conservative themes.
No one's gonna read 50 chapters of weak, pasty kids sitting in Mom's basement bitching about incorrect pronoun usage.
Science Fiction/Fantasy/Comics are popular because the found an early audience of masculine, mostly Conservatives kids.
The "creators" you see nowadays are simply standing on the shoulders of giants who built their fame on Conservative tomes.....
You're welcome.....Commie.....
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:25 pm to oogabooga68
And your ability to type out ignorant misogynistic shite on the internet wouldn’t exist without a woman either, both cause unfortunately your mother didn’t abort you, and because the underlying computer language, programming, and likely the Wi-Fi you connected to was all invented by women you misogynistic fricktard
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:25 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But could they populate it.
Of course they could. Men can have babies just like women can. Where have you been the past ten years?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:31 pm to Bronc
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because the underlying computer language, programming, and likely the Wi-Fi you connected to was all invented by women
lolwut? Ever major program language, from Fortran to Python, was invented by a man you fricking idiot.
The same with IEEE 802.11
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:58 pm to Centinel
Ada Lovelace created the first computer program and Grace Hooper was one of the pioneers in computer languages and her creation of Flow-Matic was the first natural language program and became the basis for subsequent languages like COBOL.
Wi-Fi was first successfully created by Hedy Lamarr.
And I’m not really sure where this conversation is expected to go, are you troglodytes really trying to argue woman shouldn’t just be beneath men in society but lack their intelligence too?
I mean I’m glad we are just getting this out into the open instead of this whiney pageantry the first ten pages, but a confirmation of what this stupid argument you think your making is would be nice
Wi-Fi was first successfully created by Hedy Lamarr.
And I’m not really sure where this conversation is expected to go, are you troglodytes really trying to argue woman shouldn’t just be beneath men in society but lack their intelligence too?
I mean I’m glad we are just getting this out into the open instead of this whiney pageantry the first ten pages, but a confirmation of what this stupid argument you think your making is would be nice
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:18 pm to Bronc
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Ada Lovelace created the first computer program
No, Charles Babbage did. And calling those "computer programs" is stretching it. Big time.
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Grace Hooper was one of the pioneers in computer languages
One of. Not the. Which makes your statement of
quote:patently false.
because the underlying computer language, programming, and likely the Wi-Fi you connected to was all invented by women
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Wi-Fi was first successfully created by Hedy Lamarr.
No, it wasn't. Marconi and Tesla came up with the idea of frequency hopping, which was used by the Germans in WWI, designed by Zenneck.
Lamar also wasn't alone. Her patent, based off Zenneck's work, was with George Antheil.
Bottom line is you're fricking wrong. Period. I'm not here to bash women. Women have done some great things in our history. But your statement about how women created computer languages and programming is simply horseshite.
Then again you're full of shite and utterly wrong in all your other posts on this forum, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:24 pm to Bronc
quote:This was really easy to google.
the underlying computer language, programming, and likely the Wi-Fi you connected to was all invented by women
Programming Languages:
The first high-level programming language was Plankalkül, created by Konrad Zuse between 1942 and 1945.[2] The first high-level language to have an associated compiler was created by Corrado Böhm in 1951, for his PhD thesis.[3] The first commercially available language was FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslation), developed in 1956 (first manual appeared in 1956, but first developed in 1954) by a team led by John Backus at IBM.
Wi-Fi:
About the same time in The Netherlands in 1991, [10] the NCR Corporation with AT&T Corporation invented the precursor to 802.11, intended for use in cashier systems, under the name WaveLAN. NCR's Vic Hayes, who held the chair of IEEE 802.11 for 10 years, along with Bell Labs engineer Bruce Tuch, approached the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) to create a standard and were involved in designing the initial 802.11b and 802.11a standards within the IEEE.[11] They have both been subsequently inducted into the Wi-Fi NOW Hall of Fame.[12
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:37 pm to oogabooga68
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If we were to narrow it down specifically, European men are responsible for the creation or improvement of every sing thing worth having in your life.
They also drank their own poop.
Your post is such an oversimplification of history I'm not sure where to start to correct you. Seriously.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:42 pm to Centinel
LOL you really just tried to wiki all that shite over the last hour to try and “own” me haha
Babbage was the first person to come up with the idea of a mechanical computer, Lovelace was the one that came up with the concept of using it to create algorithms forming the basis of what we now call computer programming. Therefore, yes, the language underpinning the programs we all use have their roots in Lovelace.
Lamar was the first person to put all the pieces together and actually invent Wi-Fi in a functional and usable state, yes others have understood the underlying concepts, but we don’t say the first person to fly was Leonardo DaVinci because he understand the basics of flight.
Babbage was the first person to come up with the idea of a mechanical computer, Lovelace was the one that came up with the concept of using it to create algorithms forming the basis of what we now call computer programming. Therefore, yes, the language underpinning the programs we all use have their roots in Lovelace.
Lamar was the first person to put all the pieces together and actually invent Wi-Fi in a functional and usable state, yes others have understood the underlying concepts, but we don’t say the first person to fly was Leonardo DaVinci because he understand the basics of flight.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:48 pm to Bronc
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LOL you really just tried to wiki all that shite over the last hour to try and “own” me haha
No, I was a US Army Signal Corps officer for ten years, specializing in satellite telecommunications.
I might know a thing or two about frequency hopping and spread spectrum.
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Babbage was the first person to come up with the idea of a mechanical computer, Lovelace was the one that came up with the concept of using it to create algorithms forming the basis of what we now call computer programming. Therefore, yes, the language underpinning the programs we all use have their roots in Lovelace.
No, they do not. Babbage had his own writings on the very same subject, which Lovelace built on. She refined the ideas, but he was the originator.
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Lamar was the first person to put all the pieces together and actually invent Wi-Fi in a functional and usable state
No, she fricking did not.
And knowing you're full of shite and utterly wrong, you turn to making memes.
Sad.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:51 pm to Scruffy
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Wi-Fi:
About the same time in The Netherlands in 1991, [10] the NCR Corporation with AT&T Corporation invented the precursor to 802.11, intended for use in cashier systems, under the name WaveLAN. NCR's Vic Hayes, who held the chair of IEEE 802.11 for 10 years, along with Bell Labs engineer Bruce Tuch, approached the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) to create a standard and were involved in designing the initial 802.11b and 802.11a standards within the IEEE.[11] They have both been subsequently inducted into the Wi-Fi NOW Hall of Fame.[12
He means how Hedy Lamar invented signal hopping, without which Wi-Fi wouldn't exist. It was invented to help torpedoes in WWII that used transmissions to correct their targeting. The signal hoping kept enemies from blocking the signal, and that same technology is the parent of things like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and other wireless technologies. Her patent was the first actual functionally viable version postulated.
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Programming Languages:
The first high-level programming language was Plankalkül, created by Konrad Zuse between 1942 and 1945.[2] The first high-level language to have an associated compiler was created by Corrado Böhm in 1951, for his PhD thesis.[3] The first commercially available language was FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslation), developed in 1956 (first manual appeared in 1956, but first developed in 1954) by a team led by John Backus at IBM.
In the 1800s Ada Lovelace helped invent code for the Analytical Engine, the first computer. She designed an algorithm for it to calculate Bernoulli numbers. It is considered like the first computer program.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:54 pm to skrayper
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Her patent was the first actual functionally viable version postulated.
No. She had the first US patent. Germans were using frequency hopping in WWI, as developed by Zenneck, who based his designs on work done by Marconi and Tesla, who were the pioneers of the idea of changing frequencies to resist interference and interception.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:58 pm to Centinel
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She, along with Antheil, secured a US patent that built upon Zenneck's work purely on radio frequency hopping.
Do you mean Tesla?
Zenneck tried to claim that a patent from Tesla (submitted in the early 1900s about the theory of doing so) was something that had already been invented by a company he worked for, Telefunken. He offered no proof that it had been invented though, just a claim in his book, Wireless Telegraphy.
You had a bunch of folks with the idea, but no inventions that truly replicated the result. It's Lamar's invention that was utilized by tech companies to become the foundational basis of Wi-Fi.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:59 pm to skrayper
He’s literally just Google fingering shite.
Basically copy and pasting from the Wikipedia articles.
Guarantee the man didn’t know any of those names before 90 minutes ago.
….Also still wanting an answer from either of them as to what they are trying to argue? As this entire conversation has illustrated, woman have largely been subservient to men and denied even access to more than the most basic of education throughout history. Pointing to that and saying “ah look, men could have only done this!” is absurd under that context, and sure enough, we see that time and time again when the opportunities and education can provided women are just as intellectually capable of all manner of inventions and breakthroughs, and history is littered with those examples.
Basically copy and pasting from the Wikipedia articles.
Guarantee the man didn’t know any of those names before 90 minutes ago.
….Also still wanting an answer from either of them as to what they are trying to argue? As this entire conversation has illustrated, woman have largely been subservient to men and denied even access to more than the most basic of education throughout history. Pointing to that and saying “ah look, men could have only done this!” is absurd under that context, and sure enough, we see that time and time again when the opportunities and education can provided women are just as intellectually capable of all manner of inventions and breakthroughs, and history is littered with those examples.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 4:02 pm to skrayper
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Do you mean Tesla?
No, I mean Zenneck. Again, Germans were using frequency hopping in WWI, based off Zenneck's work.
You are correct in that Tesla had the first patent on the idea of frequency hopping, but his work was based on Marconi.
The argument that Lamar and Antheil developed the technology that created wifi is simply false. It was already in use prior to their patent.
Crediting Lamar for creating wifi is picking out a specific person, at a specific time, for the work she and her partner built on top of those who came before her, who's work was built on by those who came after her.
It's disingenuous.
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