re: Has no one talked about how Infinity War is basically the Phantom Menace?

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Can't find the image for the house shields raising but yeah Dune 1984 presentation of the holtzman shields, which you could a blade through slowly at a controlled pace or is blasted with a laser caused atomic type explosions that resulted in MAD.

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Cool. Find me somewhere I said other movies didn't have forms of shields?

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IW fight has more in common with 300 than TPM though as it was about funneling troops into a killzone. You're getting distracted by visuals.

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I'm really not. The fight is basically the same.

-Giant protective shield around battlefield to protect from large ships/range fire
- Enemy has giant transport ships in a line in front of the shield
-Enemies required to enter giant blue shield and engage in hand to hand combat
-troops deploy personal energy shields as enemies enter larger shield
-main battle is a distraction from the city palace where more of the main plot is actually developing
- young boy away from the main battle takes on a giant donut shaped ship


Which movie's battle am I talking about?

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Antman was the same movie as Ironman

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Now this one is obvious.

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When they open the shield, they don't get overwhelmed, a few of the good guys get swarmed- but tank the damage. A few Wakandan extras might die, but basically they are just engaged in a heavy battle.

There is no analogue for any of the heroes- in IW, all of them except Banner/Hulk Buster are decimating large amounts of enemies. Scarlet Witch engages and destroys the big weapons.

Actually, although the battle is cool, I don't see any point for it- they didn't have to open the shieldwall.

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It maybe wasn’t the most tactically sound battle from the wakandan point of view. Opening the one section was a good idea IF you’re going to go plug that hole aka Thermopylae. They didn’t quite do that. But whatever.

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You mean the part with the hidden city that nothing could get through? Like Atlantis?

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Que? Are talking about how Wakanda is a ripoff of Atlantis now? I don't disagree.

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And you're still wrong. The battles weren't similar at all. You are talking about a bubble shield that can protect a city from just about anything to a small shield meant to protect some troops from lasers. And electric shields... fricking electric shields. As if that means anything. It's like saying every historic film with a battle is the same... 300, gladiator, braveheart, troy, etc.

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Y'all are clinging really hard. If you want to argue they are completely different because the shields didn't operate the exact same way, then fine. You're just being obtuse then.

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Giant protective shield around battlefield to protect from large ships/range fire

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This isn't true for IW. It protects an entire city/area and does more than stop firepower.

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Enemy has giant transport ships in a line in front of the shield

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It's a fricking battle where a huge army has to be transported. This literally means nothing.

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Enemies required to enter giant blue shield and engage in hand to hand combat

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Really? For there to be a battle, yes, the two sides have to engage. Again... nothing. That's like saying all cop films are the same because the cops have to enter a house to arrest someone. FFS.

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troops deploy personal energy shields as enemies enter larger shield

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Again, this isn't some new phenomenon to either of these films.

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main battle is a distraction from the city palace where more of the main plot is actually developing

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You mean battles aren't the focus of the plot? No. fricking. Way. Totally unique to these two films.

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young boy away from the main battle takes on a giant donut shaped ship

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Whew. You're trolling. Thank goodness.

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I seriously, seriously doubt that the Russos looked at the Phantom Menace for inspiration except for “what not to do”.

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if that were the case, they probably wouldn't have made the battles so similar.

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This isn't true for IW. It protects an entire city/area and does more than stop firepower.

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Obtuse view is obtuse.

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It's a fricking battle where a huge army has to be transported. This literally means nothing.

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I posted the picture earlier. It is not the fact they have large transport ships. It is that the large transport ships are practically pictured in the exact same way approaching the battle.

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Really? For there to be a battle, yes, the two sides have to engage. Again... nothing. That's like saying all cop films are the same because the cops have to enter a house to arrest someone. FFS.

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You really are missing the point to this.

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Again, this isn't some new phenomenon to either of these films.

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Show me one instance where I said it was.

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You mean battles aren't the focus of the plot? No. fricking. Way. Totally unique to these two films.

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Whew. You're trolling. Thank goodness.

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So they didn't try and take down a donut shaped ship? Interesting.

Main difference is I wanted everyone in that second picture to die.

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Main difference is I wanted everyone in that second picture to die.

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That's fair

I never said Infinity War didn't do it better. They nailed that battle. It was badass.

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Hell, literally one of your arguments was that the two armies had to engage

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No, no it is not. You missed the entire point of that post. The flow of the battle down to the visual similarities and the order at which things happened was basically identical. Stop being so obtuse.

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You can eye-roll all you want. The idea of a bubble shield didn't originate with PM. The idea of energy shields didn't originate there either. The battle itself, the setup, and the execution were completely different. You cherry-picked the tiniest of similarities to support a narrative that doesn't exist.

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Okay bud. You don't want to see it, that's fine. The visual and thematic similarities are there. You want to get hyper specific in order to claim they aren't the same, you do you. The meme exists because people caught on to the similarities.