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re: Greta Gerwig’s “Narnia” film is going to be “all about Rock N Roll”

Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:23 am to
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:23 am to
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This is really unfair. She has made some great films well before Barbie. Lady Bird is terrific as is her take on Little Women. Let’s give her a chance with this material and maybe refrain from calling excellent directors “dumb bitches”?


Point taken. I have wanted to give this a chance but I swear they could not have come up with a more hope-stealing description than "a very new take on Narnia. It's all about rock and roll." I find that sentence incredibly deflating as a big Lewis fan.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:26 am to
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This board 100% thought it was going to tank hard

You’re conflating wanting something to fail and predicting it will fail.

The Barbie name, with Robbie and Gosling, guaranteed it would be a hit
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:44 am to
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You’re conflating wanting something to fail and predicting it will fail.

The Barbie name, with Robbie and Gosling, guaranteed it would be a hit


Just looking back at the Barbie Trailer thread. Some good ones in there.

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Boy that looks bad


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oof. that's terrible. a combination of bad kevin willliamson and MCU "funny" writing


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Who is this movie meant for?


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margot robbie might have just torpedoed her entire career




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This looks awful. The whole concept seems awful.


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Looks like the song voted worst ever now has a movie that will also be voted worst ever.


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How many Razzies will this atrocity get nominated for and how many will it take home? Im guessing a clean sweep


That was in 1.5 pages. Wasn't exactly getting any "sure thing" posts back then.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63405 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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Who the hell thought Barbie was a surefire hit before it was released?
Um, everyone? It's the most popular girl's toy of all time. It had a rabid online following all during production.
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This board 100% thought
No. It didn't, and these blanket claims get less and less plausible every time someone makes them.
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:56 am to
One of those was me and shockingly I did not like it however I wasn’t a big fan of Oppenheimer either
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:59 am to
That just sounds like a bunch of middle age men predicting the movie would be bad (i.e., not for them). Not one of those quotes said it would not make money. It is certainly possible to think a movie will be bad but will make a lot of money. That was my prediction for Wicked. I doubted i would like it but that doesn't mean a bunch of women and girls wouldn't.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:08 pm to
I agree some of them were just casual "O that looks bad." But when you say it's going to torpedo Margot Robbies career, who is this movie meant for, the concept means awful, the movie will be voted worst ever, and that it will clean sweep at the razzies leans towards you thinking it won't do good at the box office

There was not a single "this movie is going to crush it" type comment. Saying this movie was a no brainer, sure fire hit is just revisionist history, that was never the boards opinion of the movie until pre sales/box office predictions started coming out.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:13 pm to
I'll wait and see how it pans out. I liked Little Women, Lady Bird, and Barbie.

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Pascal emphasized that she has "never seen anything like [Gerwig]" and reminisced on when "she barged into my office and said Little Women has been done wrong" when "she hadn't even made Lady Bird yet."


Which makes it seem like she went really radical on Little Women but she didn't. She did a really good job with that adaptation and is maybe my favorite since the 90s Winona Ryder/Christian Bale version.
Posted by BugAC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Who the hell thought Barbie was a surefire hit before it was released?


Being a hit and being good are 2 different things.

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This board 100% thought it was going to tank hard from the moment it was announced a Barbie movie was being made at all.


Cool, and Taylor Swift is garbage music as well. But little girls and wine moms love both so their gonna make money. Doesn't mean that Gerwig can make a movie with broad appeal. Same reason Swift would suck at hard rock. Being good at placating towards little girls or emotionally unstable women doesn't = genius.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Well if it's one thing fans love it's taking a 75 year old proven and beloved series and offering a fresh new take on it. I swear these people never learn.

Why do it again if you're not going to do something different? The previous movies are still available, feel free to watch, they were very mid. Gerwig's previous movies are nothing if not heartfelt. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8061 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Let’s give her a chance with this material and maybe refrain from calling excellent directors “dumb bitches”?

the Board Language Police have arrived here from Great Britain.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8061 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:58 pm to
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There was not a single "this movie is going to crush it" type comment. Saying this movie was a no brainer, sure fire hit is just revisionist history, that was never the boards opinion of the movie until pre sales/box office predictions started coming out.

I thought Barbie looked absolutely terrible and that it would bomb and I thought Joker 2 looked good and that the musical aspect of it could actually be cool. I also tried to remain optimistic on True Detective season 4 (remember True Detective season 4 everyone?) for a lot longer than most on here.

my point is that i am terrible at guessing how movies will turn out based on early info and trailers.

i am, however, sure that there is nothing "rock and roll" about the Chronicles of Narnia, so even if it is a decent movie, it will almost certainly be a bastardization of the source material.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Doesn't mean that Gerwig can make a movie with broad appeal. Same reason Swift would suck at hard rock. Being good at placating towards little girls or emotionally unstable women doesn't = genius.


Her Little Women adaptation had broad appeal. It's also highly rated by viewers and critics on both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. Lady Bird was also well received (just not as "broad" of an audience as something like Little Women).

That's fine if you don't like her as a director, but it's not like she hasn't made something with broad appeal. She has, even beyond Barbie.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:10 pm to
Why the hell do they ruin everything?
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5309 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Why do it again if you're not going to do something different?


I am always interested to see what film makers can do with an author's work. I think Jackson did a great job with The Lord of the Rings. He certainly took some liberties. He added a lot of humor which some people didn't like but I did. He left some stuff out that I would have liked to have seen. But he got the heart of the story right. I was actually trying to give the director the benefit of the doubt, but a statement about making Narnia more about "Rock and Roll" does not make me optimistic that she will respect the source material. Hopefully, I am putting way too much into that quote but I am not sure you could make a more eye-roll-inducing statement for Lewis fans if you tried. I would love to be completely wrong and if I am I will gladly come back here and admit it.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63405 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:45 pm to
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Saying this movie was a no brainer, sure fire hit is just revisionist history,
You didn't ask me.

And hardly anyone gave their opinion in that thread. It was only 2 pages long.

I thought this pretty much summed it up
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Teens and adult woman. As Belle mentioned, it's nostalgic for woman. This is like comic book films are for men
btw, box office aside, the movie isn't good.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12848 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:45 pm to
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Why do it again if you're not going to do something different? The previous movies are still available, feel free to watch, they were very mid. Gerwig's previous movies are nothing if not heartfelt. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.


The Magician's Nephew wasn't done and The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe was actually decent. The other two were not. I would be up for a remake but not a "rock and roll" remake.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6238 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:53 pm to
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the Board Language Police have arrived here from Great Britain

So its “language police” to take exception to a legitimate, talented director being reduced to a “dumb bitch” because someone didn’t like Barbie? That’s an absurd thing to call Gerwig and you are equally absurd in defending it.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
75464 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 2:23 pm to
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will be "a very new take on Naria. It's all about rock and roll."


What does this even mean?


They don't know. Even Greta doesn't know.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 2:36 pm to
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This board 100% thought it was going to tank hard from the moment it was announced a Barbie movie was being made at all.


Well initially Amy Schumer was tagged to be the star, which is like casting Michael Cera as Ivan Drago, so quite understandable.
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