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re: GoT S3:E7 "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" <<<Book Readers Thread>>> SPOILERS
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:30 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:30 am to Salmon
I think the think I'm most mad about is the foreshadowing the show is doing. In the book, you get to the RW and are all happy for Robb knowing he solved a tough situation and that he has a real chance in the war.
You start the chapter thinking oh ok a wedding....then you finish the chapter and think about NEVER reading another page in the book
No way will the show pull that off with how much they have foreshadowed
You start the chapter thinking oh ok a wedding....then you finish the chapter and think about NEVER reading another page in the book
No way will the show pull that off with how much they have foreshadowed
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:30 am to Salmon
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Tywin reveals that she was his spy and that she was just a casualty of war
I don't want Tywin to die, he is too much of a badass, but at least he goes out like Vincent Vega, has to be a relaxing way to die.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:31 am to Buckeye06
Well the Catelyn chapters leading up to it, showed her fear, and she demanded wine and bread quickly for the guest's right.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:32 am to Buckeye06
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think the think I'm most mad about is the foreshadowing the show is doing. In the book, you get to the RW and are all happy for Robb knowing he solved a tough situation and that he has a real chance in the war.
You start the chapter thinking oh ok a wedding....then you finish the chapter and think about NEVER reading another page in the book
No way will the show pull that off with how much they have foreshadowed
The book foreshadowed the RW a lot as well
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:34 am to Napoleon
The main foreshadowing they did in the book I think was Robb separating from his Wolf. At least in hindsight that seemed to be a very bad move from a mojo perspective.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:38 am to Napoleon
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Well the Catelyn chapters leading up to it, showed her fear, and she demanded wine and bread quickly for the guest's right.
as much as recall from the show, they havent even mentioned guest's right
i hope they at least give a little introduction as to what it is soon, because that was one the greatest affronts by the Freys
all around Westeros people were talking about how despicable it was to murder someone protected by guest's right
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:38 am to EarthwormJim
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The book foreshadowed the RW a lot as well
Yep. Reread the book and it's amazing the amount of foreshadowing.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:40 am to F machine
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Yep. Reread the book and it's amazing the amount of foreshadowing.
there's a ton
but i think the show needs to do a better job showing the optimism of robb and others in renewing the frey alliance
they did an ok job with the ending a few episodes ago when he was showing talisa the map of westerns, but they should lean on it a little more
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:46 am to Ash Williams
I think we should all temper our expectations and realize that there is no way it will be as epic as it was in the books
Neither Robb, nor Catelyn are the characters they were in the books, and there is just no way they can set the stage as well as the book did
Neither Robb, nor Catelyn are the characters they were in the books, and there is just no way they can set the stage as well as the book did
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:50 am to F machine
Pretty much every dream or vision in the series is forshadowing.
The RW is one of the visions in the house of the undying, one of the dreams of the Ghost of High Heart, and patchface sings about it as well.
Then you have all the chapters leading up to the red wedding that set the mood for something ominous.
The RW is one of the visions in the house of the undying, one of the dreams of the Ghost of High Heart, and patchface sings about it as well.
Then you have all the chapters leading up to the red wedding that set the mood for something ominous.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:53 am to Salmon
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I think we should all temper our expectations and realize that there is no way it will be as epic as it was in the books
oh there's no doubt it wont be as epic
i just want it to seem a little more unexpected
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:58 am to Ash Williams
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as much as recall from the show, they havent even mentioned guest's right
i hope they at least give a little introduction as to what it is soon, because that was one the greatest affronts by the Freys
all around Westeros people were talking about how despicable it was to murder someone protected by guest's right
honestly I was expecting the Yunkai guy to bring this up when Dany threatened him after offering him wine, and if she would have said "I offered you no bread" then Bam, guest right set.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:59 am to Ash Williams
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there's a ton
but i think the show needs to do a better job showing the optimism of robb and others in renewing the frey alliance
If my home was burned and all my people killed, I would go there first. Always surprised that Rob didn't go to Winterfell right away, or at least send some men there.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:00 pm to Napoleon
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honestly I was expecting the Yunkai guy to bring this up when Dany threatened him after offering him wine, and if she would have said "I offered you no bread" then Bam, guest right set.
wouldve been a nice intro but i dont know if they follow guest's right in the Eastern Cities or "europe" as my non reading wife likes to call them since they're east of westeros
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:02 pm to F machine
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The book foreshadowed the RW a lot as well
Yep. Reread the book and it's amazing the amount of foreshadowing.
Oh I agree, but I think it takes most people a re-read to know it's foreshadowing something that crazy
It seems even hodors have figured out what is going to happen
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:03 pm to Ash Williams
Catelynn will tell him to ask for guest right and explain he can't be touched. That will put the watchers at ease. The Red Wedding started off well. Everyone was having fun. Then boom went the dynamite. I think the show watchers will be more than surprised with how bad shite goes down.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:09 pm to Napoleon
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honestly I was expecting the Yunkai guy to bring this up when Dany threatened him after offering him wine, and if she would have said "I offered you no bread" then Bam, guest right set.
Yeah, this has been a sore spot for me. The show has not introduced Guest Rights, nor have they done any justice to Bran's warging abilities. By this point in the books, there had been mukltiple mentions of guest rights. Killing a guest under guest rights is akin to kinslaying.
Re: the warging...a nice scene of a wolf chasing and killing a deer, with Bran waking up licking his lips would be sweet.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:09 pm to Mr. Wayne
I also think show watchers will be pissed there is one episode left and some bs wedding is all that is happening.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:12 pm to Buckeye06
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It seems even hodors have figured out what is going to happen
I don't see anyone saying the wedding will turn into a massacre. They probably know it's an important moment in the show, since the season has been leading up to it and there are only 3 episodes left.
The placement of the RW in the book had a lot to do with catching readers off guard.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:15 pm to EarthwormJim
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I don't see anyone saying the wedding will turn into a massacre. They probably know it's an important moment in the show, since the season has been leading up to it and there are only 3 episodes left.
Yeah, it seems most think the Freys will be more or less satisfied with the Edmure match.
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