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re: Game of Thrones S7 E7 "The Dragon and the Wolf" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS

Posted on 8/29/17 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 5:50 pm to
Totally moot point here and SIAP but did anyone else think about Bran saying Jon was a Sand was incorrect even if Jon was a bastard.

I mean, I know Jon was born in Dorne geographically speaking, but it was to a Targaryen and a Stark. So, if he was a bastard he still wouldn't have been Sand right?

I mean, does Dorne follow the natural born law that the US does?
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 5:55 pm to
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I, for one, like to believe Aegon is real.

I think I prefer the Blackfyre theory. But admittedly that's mostly because I like the "Varys is a Blackfyre and he wants to see the son of his sister (also a Blackfyre) and Illyrio on the throne" theory.
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 5:58 pm to
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Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 6:46 pm to





Posted by Jaydeaux
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 6:48 pm to
Im not saying youre wrong but none of that matters once Jon finds out he's the heir. That trumps all kinds of shite. Daenerys is going to be all in as well since he used his valerian Steele on her vagina.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:23 pm to
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It's really not all that crazy to have a second kid w/the same name.

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Save for George Foreman, name one. It seems utterly ridiculous to me naming your kid the same name.
Leonard and Lanard? Not quite the same, but close....

maybe they spelled Jon's name different
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:29 pm to
Jon Snow the Targaryen Wolf
beautiful video
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:50 pm to
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Daenerys is going to be all in as well

Jon's claim as heir to the throne trumps Danny's. I don't think she's going to like that...at least at first.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:55 pm to
It may not matter, it may depend how Jon plays that card. If they love each other and win the war. Husband and Wife, King and Queen. Both get what they get. However, Jon may not believe it for a while and may not say anything for awhile. This is where Bran, Sam, and it would most certainly have to be Howland Reed need to show proof.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:57 pm to
Wisecrack summed this shite show up, in case anyone was curious: LINK
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:08 pm to
This season will not age well, imo. They need to bring it next season. It would really suck for this series to end on a sour note when it has been so transcendently great.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 9:10 pm
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:11 pm to
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t may not matter, it may depend how Jon plays that card. If they love each other and win the war. Husband and Wife, King and Queen.

One will die, book it. My bet is Dany.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20552 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:12 pm to
Or it could go that way which imo would suck.
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:15 pm to
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Jon's real name was Aegon because of Dany's vision of Rhaegar in the House of the Undying. He names the kid Aegon, says that he is TPTWP, and says that his is the song of ice and fire. None of that lines up with Elia's Aegon.


Not only that...If Rhaegar annulled his first marriage, he effectively made the first Aegon a bastard. He would want Aegon, TPWWP, to be legitimate.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:19 pm to
Could Bran bring Jon into the vision or was that only possible with TER and Bran?
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:23 pm to
I'm struggling with this--- hopefully someone can shed some light.

But how was the others going to get past the wall (that had kept them at bay for all these centuries), if it weren't for the stupid John going capture a Wight plan that never could have worked?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:26 pm to
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But how was the others going to get past the wall (that had kept them at bay for all these centuries), if it weren't for the stupid John going capture a Wight plan that never could have worked?


I'm still convinced the mark on Bran's arm had something to do with lessening the magic at the Wall like it did at the cave. The dragon was just the quickest way to tackle that.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:28 pm to
Agree
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:28 pm to
I'm not sure Kajun, maybe he could ? That may be the only way to prove it to him but everyone else may take Reed.
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
23544 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:52 pm to
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t may not matter, it may depend how Jon plays that card. If they love each other and win the war. Husband and Wife, King and Queen.

One will die, book it. My bet is Dany.

I like them as a power couple, but it sure is setting up for Dany to die.
This bit of info, if it can be confirmed by some other than Jon's best buddy and his step-brother, (which, realistically, would have to be addressed), puts Jon on the short list of Dany successors. Otherwise, we'd have a potential for a repeat of what happened after Robert died.

Not to suggest I'd go to war, or even oppose Jon, if I were on their alliance, but I might not take Sam and Bran all that seriously. They're not exactly objective sources.
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