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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:32 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:32 pm to OMLandshark
I'm hoping that he's eaten alive by Ghost. That'd be an appropriate death for Ramsey.
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:37 pm to HoldTheDoor
I'm pretty worried about Ghost considering how little that D&D give a frick about the Direwolves
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:41 pm to Fun Bunch
[quote]I'm pretty worried about Ghost considering how little budget money they have to use on the Direwolves CGI[/quote]
This is a GRRRM problem, not at D&D problem. He makes the damn wolves into these damn near giant mythical creatures that are damn near impossible to shoot in constant perspective. Hell, even Wun Wun has changed in size/scope over the last season.
If the wolves were just super scary/aggressive, they'd be in the show more. Instead, they're having to use real dogs and scale them up 2x against regular sized people. Just doesn't make for very good TV without looking like the stupid Twilight wolves.
This is a GRRRM problem, not at D&D problem. He makes the damn wolves into these damn near giant mythical creatures that are damn near impossible to shoot in constant perspective. Hell, even Wun Wun has changed in size/scope over the last season.
If the wolves were just super scary/aggressive, they'd be in the show more. Instead, they're having to use real dogs and scale them up 2x against regular sized people. Just doesn't make for very good TV without looking like the stupid Twilight wolves.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:41 pm to Fun Bunch
I think the dire wolves only die (other than shaggy dog) when one of the children make a bad mistake.
Lady - Sansa lied to her father and the king about Joffrey
Greywind - Rob broke the oath he made to the Freys
Summer - Bran fricked up
I think shaggy dog is just a throw away wolf like rikkon himself
I can't see ghost going out like a bitch.
Lady - Sansa lied to her father and the king about Joffrey
Greywind - Rob broke the oath he made to the Freys
Summer - Bran fricked up
I think shaggy dog is just a throw away wolf like rikkon himself
I can't see ghost going out like a bitch.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:48 pm to UMRealist
Why would she rely on just one person to send troops? I think that this is just the one letter they showed her penning and could stand for many more. She put two and two together that this was a quick way to get the word to everybody that they are going to take Winterfell now because that is what Jon and Davos are intent on doing. Jon is lost after being resurrected, he just stood there as they were getting railed by heads of the houses. I hope he isn't that apathetic for long.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:56 pm to UncleBlazer
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Aegon is the ruler Westeros deserves... And the one it needs right now
Let's assume Aegon is not the obvious fake most readers think he is. HOW is he the ruler Westeros needs and deserves? What experience does he have? He is as green and unproven...if not more so...than anyone else.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:14 pm to MardiGrasRazorback
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Let's assume Aegon is not the obvious fake most readers think he is
I don't think he is fake. And I wouldn't say most think he's fake either.
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HOW is he the ruler Westeros needs and deserves? What experience does he have? He is as green and unproven
"Aegon has been shaped for rule before he could walk. He has been trained in arms, as befits a knight to be, but that was not the end of his education. He reads and writes, he speaks several tongues, he has studied history and law and poetry. A septa has instructed him in the mysteries of the Faith since he was old enough to understand them. He has lived with fisherfolk, worked with his hands, swum in rivers and mended nets and learned to wash his own clothes at need. He can fish and cook and bind up a wound, he knows what it is like to be hungry, to be hunted, to be afraid. Tommen has been taught that kingship is his right. Aegon knows kingship is his duty, that a king must put his people first, and live and rule for them."-Varys
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:24 pm to UncleBlazer
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"Aegon has been shaped for rule before he could walk. He has been trained in arms, as befits a knight to be, but that was not the end of his education. He reads and writes, he speaks several tongues, he has studied history and law and poetry. A septa has instructed him in the mysteries of the Faith since he was old enough to understand them. He has lived with fisherfolk, worked with his hands, swum in rivers and mended nets and learned to wash his own clothes at need. He can fish and cook and bind up a wound, he knows what it is like to be hungry, to be hunted, to be afraid. Tommen has been taught that kingship is his right. Aegon knows kingship is his duty, that a king must put his people first, and live and rule for them."-Varys
BOOM
But he's fAegon
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:34 pm to UncleBlazer
Crackpot thread was pretty much unanimous in it's opinion that fAegon is Illyrio's son.
MOST people I know don't believe He is Daeny's nephew, but a Blackfyre.
MOST people I know don't believe He is Daeny's nephew, but a Blackfyre.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:39 pm to UncleBlazer
It would be pretty bad writing if he weren't fake.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:42 pm to 19
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Crackpot thread was pretty much unanimous in it's opinion that fAegon is Illyrio's son.
Illyrio's son that has every Targaryen trait? Seems like Illyrio got very lucky
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:47 pm to wildtigercat93
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It would be pretty bad writing if he weren't fake.
Um no. His death at Dany's hands will be her final step into madness and tyranny.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:50 pm to YumYum Sauce
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This is a GRRRM problem, not at D&D problem. He makes the damn wolves into these damn near giant mythical creatures that are damn near impossible to shoot in constant perspective.
I mean it's not an anybody problem. The show can't afford them but GRRM didn't write them in 1996 wondering if HBO could afford to show them.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:53 pm to UncleBlazer
How in 2016 is computer generated content still so expensive?
Also they have money to show Wun Wun on screen for 5 minutes saying one damn word?
Also they have money to show Wun Wun on screen for 5 minutes saying one damn word?
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:56 pm to YumYum Sauce
quote:
This is a GRRRM problem, not at D&D problem. He makes the damn wolves into these damn near giant mythical creatures that are damn near impossible to shoot in constant perspective. Hell, even Wun Wun has changed in size/scope over the last season.
If the wolves were just super scary/aggressive, they'd be in the show more. Instead, they're having to use real dogs and scale them up 2x against regular sized people. Just doesn't make for very good TV without looking like the stupid Twilight wolves.
It's not like D&D couldnt have made that change for the show. They've shown they are not hide bound to the books. They either didn't feel the continued existence of the wolves were integral to the story they were telling or they didn't think about it in time to make them normal size.
It doesn't really bother me. Seems like one of those things that can just be different between the books & show without too much of n impact.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:59 pm to UncleBlazer
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I don't think he is fake. And I wouldn't say most think he's fake either.
Pretty much anything other than Aegon being a Blackfyre is shitty writing.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:01 pm to MardiGrasRazorback
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HOW is he the ruler Westeros needs and deserves? What experience does he have? He is as green and unproven
Well...
quote:
Aegon has been shaped for rule before he could walk. He has been trained in arms, as befits a knight to be, but that was not the end of his education. He reads and writes, he speaks several tongues, he has studied history and law and poetry. A septa has instructed him in the mysteries of the Faith since he was old enough to understand them. He has lived with fisherfolk, worked with his hands, swum in rivers and mended nets and learned to wash his own clothes at need. He can fish and cook and bind up a wound, he knows what it is like to be hungry, to be hunted, to be afraid. Tommen has been taught that kingship is his right. Aegon knows kingship is his duty, that a king must put his people first, and live and rule for them.
To be honest, save for the Faith part, I think this more accurately describes Jon. Jon knows what it is like to live among small folk. He knows what it's like to be hunted. He knows what duty is and what it's like to lead. With what Varys says, Jon is the more appropriate heir to the realm than Aegon is.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:06 pm to OMLandshark
Jon couldn't run the Night's Watch without getting assassinated 
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:07 pm to UncleBlazer
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I don't think he is fake. And I wouldn't say most think he's fake either.
Of the hardcore readers, I'd say it's the most widely accepted theory besides R+L=J. Varys character just doesn't make sense if he's protecting Rhaegar's child, nor does the Golden Company breaking their first contract over a Targaryen. There's much more evidence for it, but those are the big two that don't make any sense to me unless Aegon is a Blackfyre.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:11 pm to ohiovol
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Pretty much anything other than Aegon being a Blackfyre is shitty writing.
Shitty writing? Because we didn't see him rowing around with Haldon and JonCon? Isn't that what everyone complains about with Dany?("just get to westeros already"). Aegon would be the typical hero in every other fantasy. Instead he is going to be the final step to Dany becoming Cersei.
And it's not like George didn't foreshadow. He repeatedly wrote that Aegon's face was unrecognizable. Too much actually. It would actually be shitty writing for Varys(freaking Varys) to not switch the babies knowing the trouble Aegon was in if Robert won.
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