re: Game of Thrones S6:E4 &quot;Book of The Stranger&quot; Bookreader Thread

Posted by PsychTiger

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:03 pm to Errerrerrwere

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Mr Bojangles....dance

He goes by Byron Snowjangles now. It is known.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:06 pm to ladytiger118

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Posted by Aubie Spr96

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:18 pm to ell_13

Dude, they are setting up a battle of Mereen with (7) armies (3 slaver cities, Harpies, Unsullied, and Dothraki). They are also setting up the battle of the bastards which will be a multitude of smaller armies (Wildlings, Karstarks, Boltons, Umbers, Manderlys, maybe the Vale). Then they have the Dornish getting ready to march on KL plus the possible matchup of Hound vs Mountain.

shite like this just doesn't happen. They have to move the pieces around to set it up. Sometimes that'll be slow and tedious, but you need the info to make it make sense.

Posted by ell_13

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:21 pm to Aubie Spr96

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they are setting up

That was exactly my point. You're basically making it for me. People are calling this next one a filler episode. Well, isn't that what the first 3 eps were?

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Posted by Errerrerrwere

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:36 pm to ell_13

Can the Hodors even comprehend the Grand Northern Conspiracy? This is why i doubt, SJU was setting a trap for Ramsey.

But he is a new character to them; so I doubt they would be able to decipher all seven aspects of the theory.

But dammit Winter is Coming and the North Remembers.

Posted by Bamatab

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:40 pm to jefforize

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now this army is backed by the Karstarks as well. which was a 1/3rd of Robb's original northern calvary.

I didn't realize that the Karstarks made up a 3rd of Robb's calvary. But I still figured that the Umbers, Manderlys, and the Mormonts plus the Wildlings would be pretty close to the numbers of the Boltons & Karstarks. But maybe I'm overestimating the numbers of the Umbers & the Manderlys.

Posted by guedeaux

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:56 pm to ell_13

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Well, isn't that what the first 3 eps were?

What, are you stoopid or something?

Yeah, Jon rising from the dead was just filler.

Roose getting kilt, filler.

Arya becoming a talented killer, even without eyes, more filler.

Knowing that the Red Witch is crazy old with saggy titties... ok, could have done without that part.

Tyrion unchaining the dragons and not getting burned, filler.

Mother fricking Tower of Joy, just stupid pointless filler which added nothing except for MOTHERfrickING EVERYTHING!!!

shite, so much has happened I can't recall it all, but it was all filler.

Posted by Team Vote

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:58 pm to ell_13

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That was exactly my point. You're basically making it for me. People are calling this next one a filler episode. Well, isn't that what the first 3 eps were?

By that logic, everything but the series finale would be "filler"

Posted by ell_13

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:59 pm to guedeaux

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Yeah, Jon rising from the dead was just filler.

Didn't I say the wall was one of the few places that's interesting and moving along?

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Roose getting kilt, filler.

Pretty much. He wasn't doing anything anyway other than chiding Ramsey.

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Arya becoming a talented killer, even without eyes, more filler.

Well, since that happened already... yeah.

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Knowing that the Red Witch is crazy old with saggy titties... ok, could have done without that part.

TY.

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Tyrion unchaining the dragons and not getting burned, filler.

He unchained the dragons then we got another ep and a half of nothing about it.

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Mother fricking Tower of Joy, just stupid pointless filler which added nothing except for MOTHERfrickING EVERYTHING!!!

They literally avoided giving us the actual purpose for that scene.

Posted by ell_13

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:02 pm to Team Vote

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By that logic, everything but the series finale would be "filler"

Or Ep 8 or 9... but seems that way at this point.

Remember the seasons where kings died, battles were fought, characters torn apart, sex, boobs, even scheming?

I wasn't even complaining about it. Just calling it what it is.

Posted by Team Vote

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:07 pm to ell_13

It may not be moving as fast as you'd like but saying nothing has happened is oversimplifying things. They have to tell the story with some nuance. I don't see how you could reasonably expect episode 1-3 to have as much resolution as episode 8-9.

Posted by 19

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:09 pm to Byron Bojangles III

I agree with that take on the Umber plot except...

Shaggy Dog

Rickon is a Stark. He would've hated it, but he would have sanctioned the sacrifice to ensure the success of taking back WFell.

and Shaggy Dog turning up alive is just a little Scooby Doo for GoT.

Posted by ell_13

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:14 pm to Team Vote

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It may not be moving as fast as you'd

I think they leave out things they shouldn't in order to slow the pace. As long as it took bran to complain about leaving the tower, they could have actually shown us what was there.

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nothing has happened is oversimplifying things

That would be oversimplifying things. Which is why I didn't say nothing has happened.

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I don't see how you could reasonably expect episode 1-3 to have as much resolution as episode 8-9

I'm not expecting resolution. The show is following a story that doesn't have an end yet. Even the books don't have true endings. In 3 eps what we've got is 3 dead guys whose deaths only mean that their heirs continue doing what they've been doing, one guy back alive, Dany doing was Dany has done for 4 years, Arya doing what Arya has done for 2 years, Varys and Tyrion doing what they've done for 4 years but in a different part of the world, and a couple dragons let go... for nothing?

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Posted by Ace Midnight

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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:15 pm to Errerrerrwere

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This is why i doubt, SJU was setting a trap for Ramsey.

I don't know yet. It doesn't make a lot of sense if it isn't. Show readers only really know 4 prominent houses under the Starks - Boltons, Karstarks, Umbers and Mormonts. It's always implied the Mormonts are a small house. Hodors know almost nothing of the Manderlys (I think mentioned a couple of times, at most on the show) or their importance and leadership in the GNC.

If the Umbers aren't split, but in fact are all in for the Boltons, along with the Boltons themselves AND the Karstarks - there isn't a GNC at all in the show, just a piddling left-wing insurgency - at best. Yeah, Jon is bringing down a wildling army, but the north isn't going to rally except the other way... (unless SJU is executing his part of the Manderly's plan now).

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