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re: Game of Thrones S6:E4 "Book of The Stranger" Bookreader Thread
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:37 pm to ell_13
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:37 pm to ell_13
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Just the books
Ok, I thought I might've missed that or something.
I hope they hurry up and introduce Wyman Manderly. He is such a great character in the books. But with that said, he might be too hard to pull off on the show, especially with as little time as they have to build up his character.
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:59 pm to Bamatab
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But with that said, he might be too hard to pull off on the show, especially with as little time as they have to build up his character.
I think they're mashing characters together to keep it simple if there is a GNC in the show.
But I wonder what ya'll think about Jon and the title of episode 3?
Did he break his oath; and will that stand with his father's bannermen?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:13 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Did he break his oath
I was wondering about that. Technically, he did not break his oath according to the second sentence but not the last.
"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:21 pm to Errerrerrwere
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But I wonder what ya'll think about Jon and the title of episode 3?
Are we sure that D&D intended for Jon to be the "Oathbreaker" that is referenced in the title? What if the "Oathbreaker" that they are referencing is Smalljon? The Umbers have sworn their banner to the Starks since the Age of Heroes, and all of the oath and bending the knee talk was with Smalljon and Ramsay. Even if the GNC is in effect, I think D&D could've just wanted to hint to the audience to pay attention to that storyline, and might've just been the distraction.
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Did he break his oath; and will that stand with his father's bannermen?
I guess it comes down to how you interpret the oath. Technically he died, so his watch technically ended. But I think the intent of the oath is for the person to stay with the Night's Watch for the rest of their time on this earth. So it comes down to letter of the oath versus the intent of the oath.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:26 pm to Bamatab
Could be Dany, by not going to vaes dothrak immediately after drogo died.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:35 pm to dawgfan24348
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How much you want to be Jon leaves the Wall right before Sansa gets there
That's exactly what is going to happen, BTW. It will mirror the scene with Arya and the Hound showing up to the Eyrie right after Lysa's death. I even think that Sansa will burst out laughing hysterically as soon as they hear that Jon was murdered.
Sansa is not supposed to be at the Wall. She will somehow end up back with Little Finger and get on track with her story.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:36 pm to Bamatab
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The Umbers have sworn their banner to the Starks since the Age of Heroes, and all of the oath and bending the knee talk was with Smalljon and Ramsay.
I hope you are right. But it's already been stated, and I can agree, if HK, HM, and HU are all with Bolton; Jon cannot take back Winterfell nor the North with a bunch of wildlings. Also, Sansa meeting Jon at the wall has a huge significance for tradition in the North. Not one bastard (which we don't know anything about his will from Robb; but was mentioned in the show), but Sansa and Rickon alive, as well. The irony is we know Bran is alive; but most in he show do not. This could be what it takes for the North to reunite. But Jon heads out of the tunnel heading North and I guess misses Sansa heading up from the South.
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down to how you interpret the oath. Technically he died, so his watch technically ended. But I think the intent of the oath is for the person to stay with the Night's Watch for the rest of their time on this earth. So it comes down to letter of the oath versus the intent of the oath.
But I do think that D&D had every intention on that title symbolizing Jon.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:41 pm to Errerrerrwere
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But Jon heads out of the tunnel heading North and I guess misses Sansa heading up from the South.
Are you stating this as a guess, or as a fact?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:42 pm to Errerrerrwere
Rarely get to post anymore, wanted to check in here.
Any chance The Stranger has to do with reintroducing Sandor?? Given the idea of the trial by combat being introduced last week and Gregor being focused on, it could be time.
Also, about the 3EC, given that he doesn't have an eyepatch, are we still assuming it is Bloodraven? God I hope so.
Any chance The Stranger has to do with reintroducing Sandor?? Given the idea of the trial by combat being introduced last week and Gregor being focused on, it could be time.
Also, about the 3EC, given that he doesn't have an eyepatch, are we still assuming it is Bloodraven? God I hope so.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:42 pm to Bamatab
He does not head out going north.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:47 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Also, about the 3EC, given that he doesn't have an eyepatch, are we still assuming it is Bloodraven? God I hope so.
We are, but the thousand (or thousands of) years doesn't really work, though.
Bloodraven/Brynden Rivers is only 13 or so years older than Maester Aemon in the books.
Unless when Brynden Rivers/Bloodraven "died" he merged with the Weirwood network and became timeless/ageless, that comment doesn't make any sense. So, we're either wrong or missing a piece of the puzzle.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:49 pm to ell_13
Boomshackalacka
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:50 pm to Ace Midnight
No way you put it does Blood Raven make sense being a thousand years old
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:51 pm to ell_13
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He does not head out going north.
So, what am I looking at here?
ETA: It's hard to tell on my phone. I know that it is Castle Black, and there are some people fighting in the courtyard, and someone (I'm guessing Jon?) walking through the archway. But what is the significance of it?
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:47 pm to Bamatab
That is the archway Jon walks out of. The camera is facing him, looking out that archway that is circled, into the courtyard. Looks like he is heading into a building to me, probably to get another coat since he just gave his away. Winter is coming, afterall...
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:56 pm to Bamatab
quote:A good actor can make an impact very quickly and make a character instantly likeable, especially if it's a great character to begin with.
he might be too hard to pull off on the show, especially with as little time as they have to build up his character.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:56 pm to jrodLSUke
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She will somehow end up back with Little Finger and get on track with her story.
I think that LF will intercept her on the way to the wall. In the trailer we see him somewhere in the North and not in a city. Maybe the road to Castle Black?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:19 pm to guedeaux
quote:Jon died. We agree. The first part says the watch begins and doesn't end until death.
now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death
quote:This part talks about his life, not the term of his watch. "Pledge my life" could be interpreted as a vague statement.
I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.
Don't know if the northerners will buy it, but I like it.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:24 pm to blueboy
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Don't know if the northerners will buy it, but I like it.
Well a Stark at Winterfell is better for everyone, including those at Castle Black than a Bolton, particularly Ramsay. Certainly they all must see that (except for down in the mouth Karstark).
Posted on 5/12/16 at 6:48 pm to Ace Midnight
I wonder if the 3ec is using a glamor like the red witch.
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