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re: Game of Thrones S6:E4 "Book of The Stranger" Bookreader Thread

Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

I'm hoping the Umbers gave Ramsey Rickon so they could send the letter to get Jon to act.
And get his arse kicked?

I think he's going to spend some time persuading houses to join him. Maybe we'll get some version of the Davos interaction with Manderly, with Jon substituting for Davos.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

way too many errors in the letter from it to be from Ramsay



Such as?
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:50 pm to
In the books it can be debated as to who wrote the letter.

Ramsay never referred to himself as 'Trueborn Lord of winterfell' before. And Stannis' army had yet to be defeated.

In the show its obviously him. And that's great for us
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:50 pm to
Could still have Davis do it. Jon stays at the wall "mulling his options." Davos goes and talks to the Manderlys.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:50 pm to
How many houses will side with Jon and Sansa?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:51 pm to
How the hell did Sansa know he killed Roose?
Posted by Tedock
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:51 pm to
I guess I'm the only one that just doesnt give a frick about Dany's story line that's gone on for about three seasons too long. The dragons are cool, Dany isnt. My only hope is that she goes batshit crazy like her dad.

Hell at this point I kinda hope that crackpot theory of Jorah being Azor Ahai comes true just so he shoves a sword through her heart.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:52 pm to
Because:

1) How he said he was Warden of the North
2) Because Ramsey is a sick frick
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

How the hell did Sansa know he killed Roose?


She knows Ramsey's nature. As soon as she heard that in the letter, she knew.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:52 pm to
quote:


How the hell did Sansa know he killed Roose?


He called himself the lord of Winterfell and warden of the North, pretty easy to connect the dots
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:52 pm to
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Beyonce's Formation song started going through my head when everyone started bowing down.


That song is a piece of shite and doesn't make sense. I feel sorry for you if you had your game of thrones experience tainted by that abortion of an excuse for music.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:53 pm to
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Ramsay never referred to himself as 'Trueborn Lord of winterfell' before.


That is just to set off Jon specifically. I don't think any phrase could piss off Jon more on a personal level than another bastard coming in, stealing his home from him and his siblings, and then proclaim himself a "true born lord". I'd imagine Jon was mostly frightened reading that letter for the first time, and then when he got to that part, he got immediately pissed.

quote:

And Stannis' army had yet to be defeated.



And he's lying about that. If he had defeated Stannis' army, he would have had Reek and his bride back. He's wanting Jon to break his vows directly before the Night's Watch so they kill him. The plan worked.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:53 pm to
I'm going to be different and say the letter was from LF.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:53 pm to
Unfortunate pillow talk after their nightly visits. Listening to him. She knows he is a sick frick obsessed with power.

How else would someone kill Roose if not for Ramsey. No one is getting into WF.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:53 pm to
Let's assume Manderly (based on the books). Mormot seems easy given Jon's connection with the house.

Once you get down to Flint, Glover, Talhart who the frick knows.

So you have Bolton + Karstark + Umber v. Wildlings + Manderly + Mormot.

Probably a slight edge to Ramsay with LF and the knights of the vale putting Jon over the top.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:54 pm to
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He called himself the lord of Winterfell and warden of the North, pretty easy to connect the dots
All that means is that Roose died. I guess she just assumed. But she was pretty emphatic about it.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:55 pm to
No way for that info to make it to the Vale and back. The letter came from Ramsay, it completely fits his cocky MO.

ETA otherwise healthy Roose Bolton just happens to keel over around his wife's due date? It is a really short hop to "Ramsay killed him." Umber had the same conclusion.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:55 pm to
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Are we still certain ramsey sent the letter?


I am 100% CERTAIN
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:58 pm to
Did any of y'all ever read the Reddit post of the guy who claimed to work on the set of the big battle in the north this season? If so, that seems like BS now right?
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45901 posts
Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:59 pm to
Was Mance actually discovered by the Boltons in the books ? Weren't they all still wondering wtf about yellow dick dying

It seems waaaaaay too much is given away in that letter.


Regarding the show its obviously ramsay so I will cease discussing as much because it's pointless for the show.

This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 10:01 pm
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