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re: Game of Thrones S6:E4 "Book of The Stranger" Bookreader Thread

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Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:59 pm to
It came from a bolton bannerman. The dude literally had a flayed man banner with a white flag lol.
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Posted by fightingtigers98
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:59 pm to
My question is how the hell do Sansa and Baelish meet up in the next episode, geographically makes no sense
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:00 pm to
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How the hell did Sansa know he killed Roose?




Because Sansa has him all figured out. She knew he didn't like the fact that Roose was having another baby. She knew Ramsey wanted to be in control. She knows he's a psycho. It'a logical guess on Sansa's part.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:00 pm to
Littlefinger jetpack technology again?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:00 pm to
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Was Mance actually discovered by the Boltons in the books ? Weren't they all still wondering wtf about yellow dick dying

It seems waaaaaay too much is given away in that letter.




Ramsay would certainly get the Spearwives who would likely rat on Mance once he got his flaying knife out. The fact that he'd imprison the spearwives and the singer who came with them is highly probable to me, and at least one of them would have ratted out Mance's identity.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:01 pm to
She knows what he is capable of. She knows that his stepmom was pregnant. Ramsay had to act
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:01 pm to
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I just don't think the Manderly house alone (plus Wildlings) can take Winterfell. They would know how hard it is to take


And its mentioned more than once how winterfell could withstand an invading twice the size that held it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:01 pm to
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My question is how the hell do Sansa and Baelish meet up in the next episode, geographically makes no sense



Last season he went from Winterfell to King's Landing in a single episode. Yes, he is a magical teleporter.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:01 pm to
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Brienne


Why the frick she interrupt Davos? Red Woman was going to answer for her action.

And Renly wasn't king so stop throwing that shite out there. So if he wasn't king, then your boring arse wasn't kingsguard. Hound was right about her.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:02 pm to
Your false king is dead, bastard. He and all his host were smashed in seven days of battle. I have his magic sword. Tell his red whore.

Your false king's friends are dead. Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell. Come see them, bastard. Your false king lied, and so did you. You told the world you burned the King-Beyond-the-Wall. Instead you sent him to Winterfell to steal my bride from me.

I will have my bride back. If you want Mance Rayder back, come and get him. I have him in a cage for all the north to see, proof of your lies. The cage is cold, but I have made him a warm cloak from the skins of the six whores who came with him to Winterfell.

I want my bride back. I want the false king's queen. I want his daughter and his red witch. I want this wildling princess. I want his little prince, the wildling babe. And I want my Reek. Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard's heart and eat it.

Ramsay Bolton, Trueborn Lord of Winterfell.


#1) no body part was with the letter & only pink wax (no seal)
#2) letter wasn't written in blood
#3) " Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell" & "will cut out your bastard' heart" Boltons-they flay. They don't mount heads on walls & do not cut our organs.
#4) Lord of Winterfell, his father is still alive so he would be Lord of the Dreadfort
#5) "black crows" are a wildling term, not used south of the wall
#6) Why does he ask Jon for Theon(reek) back? He was Stannis' prisoner. If he smashed Stannis he would have Theon.


now tonight's episode correct all of those except he would have sent Rickon's finger with that letter
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:02 pm to
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No way for that info to make it to the Vale and back
You think LF has just been sitting around not gathering info? He could easily have known someone in the Umbers household. Let's not forget that much of this was triggered by a letter from Lysa pushed along by LF.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:03 pm to
THE PINK LETTER WASN'T PINK. I'M GOING TO RAGE!!!
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:03 pm to
Ramsay will ride out and meet them if I had to guess.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:04 pm to
To have put all of that info together and send Jon a letter is just tortured logic that it is ridiculous.
Posted by PatDyesPants
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:06 pm to
Kit Harrington is doing an excellent job portraying a changed Jon Snow this season.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:07 pm to
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that it is ridiculous
I get that it's not popular, dammit!

But he's been plotting, not just sitting around. He's ready to get the Vale involved and wants as much help as possible. Who better to band the north together than Jon? And how better to do it than this letter?
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:07 pm to
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And its mentioned more than once how winterfell could withstand an invading twice the size that held it.

Ramsay would never stay behind the walls of Winterfell. And that will be his final mistake.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:07 pm to
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My question is how the hell do Sansa and Baelish meet up in the next episode, geographically makes no sense



Can they go to Howland Reed's house and come across LF and the Vale knights on their way to the Reed's? Is that geographically possible?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:09 pm to
Improbable considering Ramsay holds every bit of land between the wildling territory and Greywater Watch.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 10:10 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 10:09 pm to
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#1) no body part was with the letter & only pink wax (no seal)



a) The fact that he doesn't send a body part isn't definitive proof. It's not as if when he gives orders he always sends a body part. The spearwives are nothing to Jon, so I don't see why he'd necessarily send it.
b) Could just be a slight oversight in writing by GRRM.

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#2) letter wasn't written in blood



I don't think that anyone would have difficulty getting that for ink.

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#3) " Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell" & "will cut out your bastard' heart" Boltons-they flay. They don't mount heads on walls & do not cut our organs.



Who says they don't mount heads? Didn't Ramsay throw a severed head at Reek once? Sure they flay them first, but I think they mount heads as well. And the "Cut out your bastard heart" is clearly directly targeted at Jon and just a threat.

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#4) Lord of Winterfell, his father is still alive so he would be Lord of the Dreadfort



Simply used to set Jon off. I don't see how this can be used as evidence.

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#5) "black crows" are a wildling term, not used south of the wall



Not necessarily. I'd imagine that "Crows" would still be used in the North.

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#6) Why does he ask Jon for Theon(reek) back? He was Stannis' prisoner. If he smashed Stannis he would have Theon.



Because he's lying about beating Stannis. I'm not saying it's entirely truthful, but he's the man who wrote the letter.
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