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re: Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread

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Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:07 pm to
If Asha wasn't with Rickon I'd think the Umbers were siding with the Boltons. But she's there to protect him imo
Posted by FGCU Gator
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:08 pm to
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Shaggy dog isn't dead



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Posted by P-Dawg
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:09 pm to
Everyone finally willing to come to terms that Jon wasn't in Ghost, and the scene with Ghost looking at Jon waking up wasn't a "nod to the readers"?

And Edd is still the best.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:09 pm to
He's insinuating the Umbers killer another direwolf cut off its head and presented that one. He is also insinuating that the great northern conspiracy is real dammit.
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:09 pm to
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Reed stabbed him in the back, wonder if that is going anywhere? Just seemed off putting, especially for someone as honorable as Ned.


Which is why Reed had to repent for being a slimy bastard, Mr. High Septon.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:10 pm to
Well I'm sure Ned was somewhat happy somebody put down Dayne seeming he was about to get Dawn shoved 4 feet up his arse.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:11 pm to
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Unless the Umbers are setting him up. Do you even ASOIAF?

There ain't no Great Northern Conspiracy here. There is no way that the Umbers in the books would've given Rickon up to Ramsay, to be tortured or whatever springs to that psycho bastards mind. They know he was crazy enough to kill his father, so why give him up to the crazy bastard, even if it is to gain his trust. Ramsay may end up not torturing Rickon, but it would be so far out of character for him not to that it would be laughable if he doesn't. And at the first sighting of Jon, Ramsay would kill Rickon right in front of him, and the Umber know it.

Maybe Rickon somehow makes it out alive, and maybe the Umbers did this as a ruse to gain Ramsay's trust, but this is crappy storytelling considering what a monster they've made Ramsay out to be, and everyone (including the Umbers) know it.
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:11 pm to
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Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread
He's insinuating the Umbers killer another direwolf cut off its head and presented that one. He is also insinuating that the great northern conspiracy is real dammit.

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This guy gets it
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:11 pm to
Wow. What an episode. Very pleased.

And so much for the Grand Northern Conspiracy
Posted by FGCU Gator
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:11 pm to
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He's insinuating the Umbers killer another direwolf cut off its head and presented that one. He is also insinuating that the great northern conspiracy is real dammit.


I want the GNC to be real as well.

Might be fuzzy on the memory, just thought tons of dire wolves weren't running around anymore.

Though the Umbers are right there at the Wall...
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:11 pm to
frick!! CAN A DOG CATCH A frickING BREAK
Posted by 19
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:13 pm to
Woe to HBO subscribers if D&D could read...
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:14 pm to
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And so much for the Grand Northern Conspiracy


Not necessarily.
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:15 pm to
Umber= house muthafuggin Stark
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:15 pm to
Yeah the Umbers could have their own dog
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:15 pm to
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And why did they only have 2 Kingsguard there? It seems pretty easy to just add one more.


I really liked the episode, but why the change here? Only the book readers will notice the difference. It just seems as if they're trying to piss us off.

That and the fact that Ned is actually questioning what is going on there, when in the books it's simply a series of statements with no one beating around the bush on what is up those damn stairs.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:16 pm to
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They seemed to put a lot of emphasis on the fact that Reed stabbed him in the back, wonder if that is going anywhere? Just seemed off putting, especially for someone as honorable as Ned.

Edit: I know the book says that Reed killed Dayne but I didn't remember there being a lot of emphasis on him being sneaky and stabbing him in the back...I might be misremembering though.

The Crannogmen are known to be sneaky as hell, and that is why no one ever tries to conqueror the neck.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:17 pm to
Alright y'all what is the consensus on Umbers?
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:18 pm to
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They seemed to put a lot of emphasis on the fact that Reed stabbed him in the back, wonder if that is going anywhere? Just seemed off putting, especially for someone as honorable as Ned


I think the point of it is to show that history and lore are not always repeated exactly the way they happened. I think it's a setup to show us what really happened between Lyanna and Rhaegar, as opposed to the story everyone was told. They also took the time to remind us of the convo Sansa and LF had in the crypt about what she was told happened between L&R.
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:18 pm to
I enjoyed the episode but the Sam/Gilly scenes are just brutal. That boat needs to sink already.
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