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re: Game of Thrones S6:E10:"The Winds of Winter", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:56 pm to
YeP

Really incredible scene all around
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:57 pm to
The greatest fan theory/spoiler of all time is now finally out of the bag. I knew of that damn theory before I even knew who the characters were.

So glad we're past that now.

So many things still in motion here. I mean, this is the worst possible time for Bran to return. And he always just seems to make things worse.

He'd be the last surviving legit Ned Stark child. Cuz Jon isn't even a Stark now. He's the damn true heir to the Seven Kingdoms. Makes him a direct opposition to Dany.

One thing that keeps annoying me when it shows up in any story is moving at the speed of plot. I coulda sworn Arya was a very long way from Westeros. How'd she get from friggin' Braavos back to the Riverlands or the Twins or whatever so fast? That should've taken months, right? I guess she caught that boat she paid for originally, right?

Also, how does she still have the face changing power? I thought that was something you can only do if you are no one and the faces become poison otherwise? Da well. More convenient if she's the best kind of assassin there could ever be.

Cersei is going to turn into a Mad Queen and I bet Jamie winds up killing another insane ruler to keep everyone from dying horribly.
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by anc
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:57 pm to
There was one more person at the Tower of Joy that can confirm it.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:58 pm to
But why didn't Ned just tell Cat... Why let her hate Jon his whole life? She would have kept the secret.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:58 pm to
For those that need an explanation of the whole Jon parents thing

LINK
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:59 pm to
He made a promise. The only way to protect him is if no one knows. He died pretty soon after Robert did. Maybe he would have said something after Rob's death but I don't know. He played it safe.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:00 pm to
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Jon is now the rightful air


He was still a bastard. Based on where he was actually born he should be Jon Sand
Posted by Titus Pullo
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:00 pm to
Also, who do the Lannister's have ad allies now? Anyone? The closest they had were the Freys who just got fricked up, and the Tyrells even if it wasn't the best of alliances, but even that is gone now.

And to those talking about time, a lot of time passed in this episode.

When the Queen of Thorns was in Dorne she was wearing black and in mourning and talked about how her house was no more, Jamie has time to get back to KL after pissing on Frey. So it had to be several days or a week at least passing. Probably a month between the beginning and end.

To give Arya time to get to the Twins and Varys time to get from Dorne back to Mereen, just in time to sail back to Dorne, presumably.
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:00 pm to
so much good tonight

Jon should just declare his undying love for Lady Mormont now




of all the things that happened, I think the one thing that's the big curveball is Jon letting the red priestess go

somehow, someway, she's going to return alongside someone with an army....good, bad, dont know. Just think that is the one thing that's going to come back and bite someone in the arse next season

Posted by razorbackfan4life
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:01 pm to
If you need a little help. This is season one where Ned parted ways with Jon.

LINK
Posted by Bruneaux
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:02 pm to
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Was Rhaegar's name mentioned at all this episode? Or are we still going off theory?


I don't believe so..

rhaegar and RB battled at the battle of the Trident and RB smashed his chest in with his war hammer. Jorah mentioned this before Dany banished him the first time saying,"Rhaegar fought valiantly, rhaegar died valiantly", when asked by Dany is he knew her brother...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:03 pm to
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It means that Robert is a mad cuckold who created a war to not knowing that Lyanna really loved Rhaegar

the Lord of Light works in mysterious ways
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:04 pm to
That was fricking awesome. Impressive death toll tonight
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 10:05 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Was Rhaegar's name mentioned at all this episode? Or are we still going off theory?


who else could have fricked Lyanna?
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:04 pm to
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He was still a bastard. Based on where he was actually born he should be Jon Sand
Not entirely true. What if Rheagar and Lyanna eloped? All they would need is a septon.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:05 pm to
So what bad guys are left?

Cersei
White Walkers
IronIslands King
Dorne lady

Maybe Littlefinger

Any others? I don't think Jaime is a bad guy anymore
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted by brmark70816
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:06 pm to
Great episode and awesome finale. Next season is going to be crazy.

They didn't say who the father was though. We just know he is Ned's sister's kid. We all assume it was the Prince. But it could still be a ton of people. We don't know how long she was there or who she was with. Could have been Robert, the Mad king, the Prince, one of the Kings guards, Hodor.. I can keep going..
Posted by Titus Pullo
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:06 pm to
Lastly, little Lady Mormot is a badass.

love her character. IIRC, even Sansa couldn't help but smile when Lady Mormot was calling out the Lord's who didn't honor their alliance to the Stark's.

The White Wolf, King of the North.



Hope he fares better than the Young Wolf, King of the North.
Posted by The Quiet One
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:06 pm to
The confusion on Jon Snow's lineage has me thinking...

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

One thing that keeps annoying me when it shows up in any story is moving at the speed of plot. I coulda sworn Arya was a very long way from Westeros. How'd she get from friggin' Braavos back to the Riverlands or the Twins or whatever so fast? That should've taken months, right? I guess she caught that boat she paid for originally, right?

the plot lines going on in the show aren't even. arya's stuff in bravos could have literally been done long before the freys even lost the riverlands to the blackfish. i mean jaime making it from riverrun to the twins would take a while. then he has to go back to KL and that would take some time. so even though we see a lot of stuff going on within an episode, it's not going on in real time
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