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re: Game of Thrones S4:E8:"The Mountain and the Viper", HODORS ONLY no book readers

Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:10 pm to
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forgot. Do we even know what Benjen looks like?





I originally thought he was Jon Snow's dad. Being that he was of the Knight's watch and swore an oath not to bear children, had to give him up to Ned, and Ned obliged because if it came out that Benjen had a son then he probably would be executed.

That's why "Uncle Benjen" and Snow had closer bond in the first episode, and why Benjen didn't want Jon on the wall, but Ned was okay with it.

But then he disappeared so now Jon is Cersi's
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:15 pm to
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I originally thought he was Jon Snow's dad.


The wife believed this as well. We both assume it isn't Ned, but Benjen doesn't seem impactful enough considering he's been written out of the series completely - not sure he's even mentioned after Season 2
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:41 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:19 pm to


This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by UL-SabanRival
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:20 pm to
I don't know. That face does lend itself to being zombified.

There really are some goofy looking motherfrickers on this show.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
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Based on the map they showed Jorah looking at last episode, they are not really that far....and she could send a dragon to get there even faster just to wreck some shite and send a warning.


They're on the other side of the whole damn world
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
i read something along those lines. it was a speculation piece, but i don't want to put anything in here that would be banable.

ill just sit back and keep reading the thread.

eta: also this could ruin my dream of Jon Snow with Khaleesi.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
yeah, that seems out of the scope of what we've been told. and if he was, why hide it?

benjen theory=death to benjen
cersi theory=because of pure lineage
what's the motive of secrecy for the one you posted?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:29 pm to
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and, how far are the dragons from king's landing, that gif of the dragon flying over the city...is that going to happen this season or not?

Here is a map I made a few weeks ago in one of the discussion threads:



W = Westeros
KL = King's Landing
SB = Slaver's Bay
M = Mereen
Y = Yunkai
A = Astapor
Red blob is the Red Waste that they crossed after leaving Qa'arth (Q).

So Dany is still in Mereen as of now I believe. So she's got a LOOOOONG way to go.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:33 pm to


ETA: Kash, hope you read my explanation
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:41 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:36 pm to
I feel like we're starting to verge on some potentially spoilerish shite..
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:39 pm to
It's actually all theories which can't be proven or disproven right now, but I agree. This is why I didn't mention it earlier in this thread and why I edited my post.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:39 pm to
not really. all speculation talk.

seeing as GRRM has crushed my dreams at every turn, i expect Cersei to be the last alive.

she will newk westeros. the end.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:40 pm to
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I feel like we're starting to verge on some potentially spoilerish shite..


I just refer to it as a theory - while I did look up more details on the internet, I developed it solely from watching Season 1 and part of Season 2. I'm not spoiling anything - the readers in my family say it has neither been confirmed nor denied in the books published to date.

I CANNOT see how discussion of this theory can be spoilerish IN ANY WAY. But, I'll shut up if there is a consensus.

ETA: I took all the content out of my earlier posts - but, we Hodors are very pussified, IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:40 pm to
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also this could ruin my dream of Jon Snow with Khaleesi.


Jon better step up his game, at the rate Khaleesi is going she is going to see a lot of dick by the time she gets to KL.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

It's actually all theories which can't be proven or disproven right now

quote:

not really. all speculation talk.

Right, but if those theories and speculation are coming from the perspective of a bookreading knowledge base, then it definitely goes against the point of this thread. That's all I'm saying.

And I don't think we're there, but we are teetering pretty close IMO.
quote:

I just refer to it as a theory - while I did look up more details on the internet, I developed it solely from watching Season 1 and part of Season 2. I'm not spoiling anything - the readers in my family say it has neither been confirmed nor denied in the books published to date.

I CANNOT see how discussion of this theory can be spoilerish IN ANY WAY. But, I'll shut up if there is a consensus.

I get that. And if your "theory" comes from you watching the show and that's all, then NBD. If it comes from speculative articles you've read (that could be based on other things), discussions with readers, etc., then that's a different ballgame.

And I'm not accusing anybody of spoiling anything, btw. Just trying to maybe head off some bad discussion (in terms of the Hodor thread), that's all.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Right, but if those theories and speculation are coming from the perspective of a bookreading knowledge base, then it definitely goes against the point of this thread. That's all I'm saying.

And I don't think we're there, but we are teetering pretty close IMO.




I normally agree with your view of spoilers, but I think you're taking it a little too far in this particular instance.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:44 pm to
me talking about jon snow and khaleesi is my own thoughts

the jon snow family thing, i have no idea.

also since we can't participate in the crackpot thread. we should make our own. would be fun to lay down some predictions now, if we could keep readers out.

for instance:

you'd think the last half of the last book will be some sort of huge war against white walkers. everyone that hasn't been assassinated by GRRM will show up. Khaleesi will fly in with dragons, help win the war. her and jon snow live happily ever after. the boltons flay Cersei. (Disney version, minus the flaying)

however it will probably go like this. all the lannisters will turn into white walkers and destroy everyone, the end.

This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:46 pm to
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So she's got a LOOOOONG way to go.


how about these bad boys?




She goes all Warg and starts blazing shite
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