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re: Game of Thrones S4:E8:"The Mountain and the Viper", HODORS ONLY no book readers

Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:54 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:54 am to
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Did that really make people not like Jamie? I really didn't care, Cersei is a bitch


I'm not much of a "she had it coming" type of person
Posted by Antiheroaz
may the odds be ever in your favor.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:59 am to
Just watched an "inside the Episode"...... Not really a spoiler but


































Oberyn apparently did poison the mountain. I remember seeing the squire rubbing the blade with a rag too.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
Huh...ok. So I guess he did think there was a chance he would die.
Posted by The_Hornet
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:12 pm to
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During the beetle speech Jamie claimed Varys tried to touch him...,unless I misheard the name


You massively misheard. I'm pretty sure it was the Maester that was at Casterly Rock in his youth.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:15 pm to
Well it wasn't rape so..
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Well it wasn't rape so..


How was that not rape??
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:51 pm to
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How was that not rape??
faux protest by cersei. she wanted the D
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116181 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:54 pm to
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quote: How was that not rape?? faux protest by cersei. she wanted the D


Sounds like a Frat lawyer defense
Posted by The_Hornet
Member since Jun 2014
546 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:56 pm to
She said it wasn't right, she didn't say she didn't want the dick. Besides, she had been fricking her brother in the first place, she has no leg to stand on IMO.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:04 pm to
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I'm not much of a "she had it coming" type of person


I'm not either, but he if would have pulled out a sword and killed the bitch no one in the media would have batted an eye, but because he raped her they wanted to make a big stink over it.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:06 pm to
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I'm not a doctor either but I'm almost certain an erection can be achieved minus the testicles. I believe there may be chemical castration processes that prohibit erections though.


I'm not a doctor or a vet but I've been around hundreds of geldings and I've never seen one with a hard on.

Of course I look nothing like a mare.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:10 pm to
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So where is the Grey Worm love story going, anyway? I'm no doctor, but I don't think you can get a boner with no balls. Maybe in Westeros you can

pretty sure there is no D or B

that's why oberyn joked that they were shitty lovers earlier in the season
Posted by The_Hornet
Member since Jun 2014
546 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:15 pm to
Is it okay if I post what wikipedia has to say on the pillar and stones situation in regards to the Unsullied?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116181 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:21 pm to
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She said it wasn't right, she didn't say she didn't want the dick. Besides, she had been fricking her brother in the first place, she has no leg to stand on IMO.


She tried to defend her self and told him no....I can't believe I'm having this conversation right now
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:22 pm to
Quick episode thoughts:

Gilly/Ygritte = meh.

Ramsay/Theon. Glad that is going a little bit somewhere, but Theon needs to either die soon or get some revenge soon...but something has to happen with that, otherwise it's just random bullshite that they are wasting time on instead of interesting shite.

Missandei has some nice boobs. Get you some, Grey Worm. Also, I thought the Dany scene with Jorah was pretty cool. She turned on him quick once she realized he was an a-hole. I'm a little surprised she let him live though.

Loved Arya/Hound as always, just wish they'd have gotten more screen time.

Sansa's "transformation" was pretty STEEUUPID. Felt like a silly Disney character or something. So are we to believe that she's moved over to the dark side and will be slinging it at Baelish that night?

Oberyn/Mountain fight was pretty awesome. I like that Oberyn's pride/cockiness is what got him killed. I did think it was a little weird that Mountain is chilling there about to straight up die, and then musters up the strength to straight up manhandle Oberyn and literally crush his skull in, only to then roll over and die (assuming he did die). Still though, pretty badass way to end the episode, no doubt.

And as always, Jaime and Tyrion's scenes are so fricking good.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted by The_Hornet
Member since Jun 2014
546 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:33 pm to
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She tried to defend her self and told him no....I can't believe I'm having this conversation right now


Defend herself? She said it wasn't right (like fricking your twin is ever right) but it wasn't like she was fighting him actively or screaming stop/rape. Maybe if she raised her kid better he wouldn't have been 86ed and she wouldn't have been in that situation.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:34 pm to
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faux protest by cersei. she wanted the D

Exactly. I can't believe we're still having this conversation this many episodes later. Cersei was definitely down for Jaime's dick in that scene. She faux protested, like you said, and then immediately started kissing him back.

That wasn't a rape scene at all. It was a scene that showed that despite everything that happened with the both of them, and despite Cersei being a complete mega count to Jaime, she still obviously loves him deep down and missed him while he was gone. That was their sort of reunion that finally got to take place now that Jaime was back in K'sL. It just so happened to take place 3 feet from their son's corpse.

ETA: And yeah, her "it's not right" commenst had everything to do with Joffrey being right there and nothing to do with anything else.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:35 pm to
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She tried to defend her self and told him no....I can't believe I'm having this conversation right now


That isn't the case at all. He didn't rape her. The producers have admitted that, basically, they framed it and shot it wrong, and didn't intend for it to come across as rape.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:42 pm to
The rape scene made a huge stink after it aired. Apparently, in the book. Not only does he not rape her, she wants it. They said that Dany wanted it from Drago after he went against his culture and refused to abuse her or force sex on her. Even ultra liberal women I know we're pissed. One was pissed because they ruined the pervyness of the incest.

So it seems like a typical feminist rape culture agenda thing. This show seems to have a lot of agendas. I'm told that the gayness in the books isn't so overt either.

We're all going to have to read these books just to escape the spoiler bombs for what will likely be several years to come. Y'all know that, right?
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