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re: Game of Thrones S4:E8:"The Mountain and the Viper", HODORS ONLY no book readers

Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:53 am to
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:53 am to
Oberyn was one of the few people in the show who had some semblance of morality and humanity left, and with motives that we can relate to. It would have almost been easier to bear if he had been cleaved in half on the first swing. His style was so entertaining and effective against a man that no one else in the world could challenge that it makes you want his victory even more.

For him to be killed so viciously after he had essentially won the fight just feels like some sort of betrayal. Especially for a character that showed absolutely no fear since his first appearance; to watch such a heroic figure who was always cool, never rattled and always in control scream in agony like that was profoundly disturbing. It was terrifically horrifying.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 10:25 am
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:55 am to
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I 100% agree. And although I love GoT, I don't consider myself that much of a fan of the show yet. Especially compared to all the diehards.

However, there was something agonizing about this particular moment in a show full of them, but I can't place my finger on it. This disturbed the hell out of me. I haven't stopped thinking about it in three hours. When I watched it again it was even worse.

I'm not sure why I'm feeling this way. It could be the gore and how graphic it was. I think it's deeper than that though. I think it had something to do with the revenge for his sister and The Mountain admitting it as he destroyed his face. Something about that rubs me the wrong way. And he was so close to winning! He had him!

I felt the same way for awhile after how Jaime killed Jory in S1 (and it wasn't even that gory).
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:57 am to
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For him to be killed so viciously after he had essentially won the fight just feels like some sort of betrayal. Especially for a character that showed absolutely no fear since his first appearance; to watch such a heroic figure who was always cool, never rattled and always in control scream in agony like that was profoundly disturbing. It was terrifically horrifying.
This 100%
Posted by weedGOKU666
Member since Jan 2013
3749 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:58 am to
RIP hot bi guy

u will be missed
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:06 am to
We should have seen it coming. This show is too smart to have Tyrion walk out of legal trouble by winning a champion fight twice.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:09 am to
I've also pegged the feeling I have. This is the polar opposite of how I felt during the Chris Davis return against Bama.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:11 am to
True, but they always do a good job of making sure we don't see it coming. That's what makes this show great.
Posted by weedGOKU666
Member since Jan 2013
3749 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:24 am to
Real talk: I'm one Tyrion-death away from #TeamWhitewalker
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14033 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:34 am to
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Haven't y'all learned anything from the Red Wedding?

Actually, I am learning that George is predictable. I think it's such a ridiculous way out at this point. He's killing off all the good characters and tonight was cheap IMO. At this point, Tyrion is scheduled to die. Arya/Hound and Jon Snow are the only characters left that I like if Tyrion does die.

Hopefully the last 2 episodes redeem this horseshite
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:50 am to
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At this point, Tyrion is scheduled to die. Arya/Hound and Jon Snow are the only characters left that I like if Tyrion does die.


Agree on Arya/Hound, but Jon Snow has become boring because of Castle Black. I like Brienne and Pod too though.

Dragon lady has become lame since she won't get naked anymore.....and why they don't show her dragons all the damn time is beyond me.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14033 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:10 am to
Yeah, Brienne is cool. Snow sort of replaces Rob Stark and he'll have some cool battles ahead I imagine. At some point he'll be the leader at the Wall it seems.

Eta: and yes, frick Dany. She sucks. I only want to see the dragons.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 6:12 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116181 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:41 am to
The show must've ran put out of CGI money. We've gotten like one shot of the dragon all season
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 6:42 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:54 am to
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However, there was something agonizing about this particular moment in a show full of them, but I can't place my finger on it. This disturbed the hell out of me. I haven't stopped thinking about it in three hours. When I watched it again it was even worse
Man, I love this show and was on the edge of my seat when that happened...

But I think I just watch shows differently than a lot of you guys, apparently. The moment it was over I just went back to watching the LSU game and gave it no thought again, and i'll just be ready for episode 9 in a week.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116181 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:01 am to
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But I think I just watch shows differently than a lot of you guys, apparently. The moment it was over I just went back to watching the LSU game and gave it no thought again, and i'll just be ready for episode 9 in a week.


What a sad life you live
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:12 am to
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What a sad life you live
It's tough, but I scrape by...barely.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:19 am to
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For him to be killed so viciously after he had essentially won the fight just feels like some sort of betrayal. Especially for a character that showed absolutely no fear since his first appearance; to watch such a heroic figure who was always cool, never rattled and always in control scream in agony like that was profoundly disturbing.


i agree with this for the most part, but i have a hard time seeing oberyn as a "hero" in the traditional sense. he was a good dude, but he never seemed like a main character/protagonist. it sucked that he died, but in a way it restored my faith in the show, because i was beginning to think that the 'good guys' were going to win every encounter. now i have no idea who is safe.

what a way to go... that was incredible.

and i have no idea what sansa's game is, here, unless she truly understands that little finger is a serious player and she's finally willing to "play the game" in her own self-interest. (because he's pretty much the only person she can ally with at this point). i can't really blame her, but i doubt she really understands who/what she's allying with.
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:24 am to
I may be shifting from #TeamDani to #TeamRamsay now
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:30 am to
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i agree with this for the most part, but i have a hard time seeing oberyn as a "hero" in the traditional sense. he was a good dude, but he never seemed like a main character/protagonist. it sucked that he died, but in a way it restored my faith in the show, because i was beginning to think that the 'good guys' were going to win every encounter. now i have no idea who is safe.
Yea, with literally no one being safe, that's what makes the show so great.

If it were like most every other show, you would know with 100% certainty that Tyrion is going to live. Even when Oberyn died shockingly, you probably wouldn't sweat it much as you'd know Tyrion would somehow figure a way out.

Even though I'm very confident Tyrion will figure a way out, this is about the only show where I really just don't know, I thought the exact same thing about Ned Stark 3 seasons ago.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:30 am to
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#TeamRamsay




jesus if there's a shred of justice in the world that dude will get eaten by ants.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:32 am to
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I may be shifting from #TeamDani to #TeamRamsay now
At least Ramsay's out there making moves

I was all about the Khaleesi from day 1...or from the 1st nude scene, most likely. She's still badass, but there needs to be some kind of big movement from her storyline. We've been wandering around conquering cities/freeing slaves/building the Khaleesi army for, what, 2+ seasons now? Let's let those dragons do work already!
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