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Posted on 4/26/11 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Books
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 11:32 am to
Posted by SLC
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 11:52 am to
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There is more to it than just the infidelity (which is a big motivator). You guys let me know if you think this is too spoilery, I don't think it is as it isn't part of the main novels.

There are several examples in the books and real history where bastards or their heirs make a claim to family inheritance (most notably the Blackfyre rebelion, but there are other examples). Cat is worried that either John, or more likely his descendants, will come back to challange her own descendants for the rights to Winterfell and the power that comes with it. For Cat, family is everything and she views John as a threat to her family.


It's both IMO. She is very worried about Jon usurping Rob or descendant's doing the same.
She also despises Jon b/c his presence is a reminder of Ned's indescretion and Ned never opened up to her about Jon, his mother, or any of the events surrounding that time. She is excluded from Ned in that. She views Jon's existence as an insult to her IMO.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 12:07 pm to
It seems pretty normal in their world for a powerful man to have bastards but they're generally just expected to provide for them and maybe take them into some sort of service when they're of age. Actually bringing one into the household as a baby and raising him alongside the legitimate children seems to be somewhat unusual.



(Moved the rest to the books thread.)
This post was edited on 4/26/11 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 12:15 pm to
I think this thread should be changed to a "For those who have read the books" thread, and another thread made for those who have not. There's just too much discussion going on here of what happens in the books, what the differences are, spoilers.

And yes, I've read them. I started reading SoIaF in 99.
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 12:18 pm to
the first two episodes have really made me want to pick up the books except for the fact that i'm halfway through the Dark Tower series.
Posted by TexasTigah
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 12:25 pm to
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Dunk and Egg novellas
These should be read between Crows and the new one coming out?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 12:43 pm to
Yes. The second one in particular.
Posted by Max Power
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 2:08 pm to
Sounds like an exciting show! I may have to start watching.

LINK

We're passionate about our TV, that's a given, but a Florida man got so heated over 'Game of Thrones' he threw his cousin out of a window.
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 3:48 pm to
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These should be read between Crows and the new one coming out?


You can read them whenever you want, they take place way before The Game of Thrones starts.
Posted by Shreveporter
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 4:15 pm to
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IGN Video Review


this is great... I love where they explain that most of the characters that come off as evil can be regarded as having baggage or a backstory "whereas Joffrey is just a dick"
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:30 pm to
Yeah that part made me chuckle.
Posted by MediTiger
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 5:39 pm to
Right, that's what I was trying to say. Maybe I didn't do the best job.
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/26/11 at 11:05 pm to
Awesome!
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 8:45 am to
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 5/1/11 at 1:49 pm to
Episode 3 Preview
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Arriving at King's Landing after his long journey, Ned is shocked to learn of the Crown's profligacy from his new advisors. At Castle Black, Jon Snow impresses Tyrion at the expense of greener recruits. Suspicious that the Lannisters had a hand in Bran's fall, Catelyn covertly follows her husband to King's Landing, where she is intercepted by Petyr Baelish, aka "Littlefinger," a shrewd longtime ally and brothel owner. Cersei and Jaime ponder the implications of Bran's recovery; Arya studies swordsmanship. On the road to Vaes Dothrak, Daenerys finds herself at odds with Viserys.
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 5/1/11 at 2:43 pm to
Plays tonight right?
Posted by Shreveporter
North End Zone
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Posted on 5/1/11 at 3:59 pm to
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a Florida man got so heated over 'Game of Thrones' he threw his cousin out of a window.


he was just reenacting the Jaime-throwing-Bran-from-the-broken-tower-scene. That's *true* fandom. HBO should give them passes to the season 2 premier...
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 5/1/11 at 4:25 pm to
Yep at 8.
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:37 pm to
you mother frickers who have read the books need to leave the spoilers out of this thread.
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