re: FROM (MGM+) SEASON 4 OFFICIAL DISCUSSION THREAD (This show needs watchers!)

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I think Sara is going to pull a “Sophia is not who she seems”

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MIY is going to reveal himself to Sara. Sara is gonna go to the others for help killing Sophia and everyone is gonna say it's just Sara being crazy again. She will attack Sophia but Sophia will survive and everyone will turn on Sara thus "tearing themselves apart."

Any ideas what Elgin was doing pouring gravel in the bedroom for Fatima? What's that about

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but I don't think everyone "turning" on Sara will tear the town apart. She's already a pariah.

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It will if a few people believe her and factions are formed. There's already people ready to turn on Boyd for how he's handled Sara, (maybe Kenny who is growing closer to Sophia?) If Boyd (who's "the only thing that holds this town together") takes up for Sara again and then people find out hes responsible for Elgins eye... that will not go over well.

Plus Sophia is already working the angle to make people blame Tabitha and Julie for all the bad shite thats happening. Victor knows about the MIY, and will presumably be telling Tabitha and the others hes with. Maybe Sara is able to come up with enough evidence that people like Tabitha and Julie also side with Sara after hearing Victor's concerns

That's a very blameable core faction of Boyd, Tabitha, Julie, and Sara that the town could turn on

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If Boyd (who's "the only thing that holds this town together") takes up for Sara again and then people find out hes responsible for Elgins eye... that will not go over well.

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This is where I am as well...I think that the whole coverup of Fatima killing Tillie, Elgin kidnapping Fatima, her giving birth to Smiley, and Boyd/Sara torturing Elgin to save Fatima will definitely come out at some point. And when it does, some shite will go down and the Town will be divided. That is an awfully huge secret that is known by too many people for it not to come out. I also assume MiY knows about it (or some of it) and will be hinting at things to help turn the tide against Boyd.

A recurring theme of last season was the Town breaking Boyd after his "it can't break me/us" speech. So I assume that spills over into this season, especially with Kenny telling Sophia how important Boyd is to the people (as you alluded to in your quote).

I just am interested to see how MiY fits into overall knowledge of this place. As in what all does he actually know supernaturally vs. what is he trying to legitimately learn by infiltrating as Sophia. Because it seems like his position (or whatever) comes with its own level of knowledge and control. But then again, we also see Sophia asking questions like she's trying to figure shite out about the Town and the people (whereas in the past the MiY just seemed to know shite just because, like Tabitha digging the hole in the basement for example).

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Those are the MiY’s clothes. Victor being scared was the big reveal. Means he knows the MiY.

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Victor definitely knows who or what the MiY is but I thought MiY put his clothes back in the suitcase that was buried when he put on Sophia’s clothes. I didn’t think he just left them lying on the ground. I could have missed something though.

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I think MiY knows he can blame some shite he’s about to do on Sara because she has a rep for doing crazy shite. Helps him stay hidden longer.

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I also wonder if he's gonna corner Sara and be like "Why did you start ignoring my messages that I sent to you via cuts on your forearms?" I'm wondering if he was controlling that previously.

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What the hell are they doing with the gravel. That was the part that confused me the most.

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Was it gravel? For some reason I thought it was dirt, and my immediate reaction was that she was wanting to grow more spoiled plants to eat. But I don't think that is true, was just my first thought.

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Was that real are in his head? If that was real that opens up all kinds of shite.

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At this point I feel like we have to assume it was a vision, like when he sees Father Khatri. But like you said, if it is real then this show could turn sideways and get super weird (which I am here for ).

Another solid episode.

“Whatever game this is, we are losing. And BiW says we are running out of time and we don’t even know the goddamn rules.”

Sara: “I hope I didn’t wake you” as she walks in and clearly sees Sophia awake on the bed, fully dressed, and reading a letter.

So Sara is hearing the voices again, and this time they were caused by MiY/Sophia. I wonder if he was the one doing it the whole time.

Does nobody ever visit the attic to see the gigantic pile of dirt? Seems like that all rooms would be taken in that place, even the attic.

My initial thought with Fatima was shes growing rotten veggies again to feed on.

YES! We get Victor measuring the trees again to see if they’ve moved. I remember thinking that may end up being significant back in S1 when he brought it up. I really hope that pays off at some point.

Julie needs to make a bookmark. That seems significant. And of course Randall thinks it’s bullshite when nothing in this place makes sense.

Fatima is making a golem. A giant made of clay that protects people.

Bookmark didn’t work. Julie thinks she draws a symbol on paper and leaves it there at the scene and then she can revisit it.

Victor says MiY came in a car like everybody else. They brought him in and make him their friend. He saw MiY at the bottle tree when he found his mom, and he was eating her. Yikes.

Sophia compares Abraham/God to Sara. So that was apparently just a test to see if Sara would do what she was told to do.

Fatima is “connected” to the monster she birthed (Smiley). The clay monster giant thing is her way of fighting back.

So something was at the bottom of the lake that is now floating. Wonder if it’s helpful or hurtful to everyone in the Town.

Preview for next week looks like we get some solid information from both the Town kid ghosts and also from Jade’s shroom trip.

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Did MiY really come from outside, was that just a ruse to play with his food before eating it

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I think this is correct, but I'm not sure why. Maybe a "turning" of a normal person into something stronger than the night monsters would have left Victor unable to ever trust anyone there again.

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Is this golem expected to actually do something? Like move? If so, wouldn't it be a bit of a better idea to have it tromping around outside the house?

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Had this exact thought...besides the points made earlier about space being at a premium inside the house. Also, no one is going to notice the water runoff you clearly haven't accounted for, Fatima?

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Julie decides to cut her hair so the demons can't grab her by it, but it's still shoulder length.

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I laughed at that as well.

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I think she's on the right track with the bookmarks, but it's going to be something different than she thinks (obviously). Maybe she needs to bring something back from that specific point instead of bringing something in?

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I think it will take some figuring out. I will be really, REALLY pissed if Ethan's dumbass little twerp books lay out how to do things explicitly though. But admittedly, that's mostly because I just fricking hate that little cunt and don't want him to be more major to the plot.

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Did MiY really come from outside, was that just a ruse to play with his food before eating it or was he deeply corrupted by something there which made him into something different (maybe worse?) than the demon-people?

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Not sure on that. We know Sophia didn't come from outside, but everyone else has no idea since the preacher is dead.

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Is this golem expected to actually do something? Like move? If so, wouldn't it be a bit of a better idea to have it tromping around outside the house?

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We definitely need more information on all of that. I will say that currently I am not a big fan of things heading in that direction. The only thing I was onboard for was Boyd's shrugging and saying something like "hey, if it's real then maybe it can't hurt to have something on our side for a change."

But it just seems like a really weird place to take this. She's....creating a "giant" out of dirt and mud? Uh, okay.


Also, Elgin is a little too forgiving. Dude is just pal-ing around with Fatima and Sara after kidnapping and harming one and being brutally mutilated by the other like two days ago.

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But it just seems like a really weird place to take this. She's....creating a "giant" out of dirt and mud? Uh, okay.

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Pretty well known Jewish fable.

If you're a Sopranos fan, you'll recognize that Tony was called a golem when he tried to intervene in the Hassidic marriage.

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I'm not sure where it's going or if the infinity symbol inside it means anything though.

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I think that's just a device so we can identify what is otherwise a basic gold band.