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re: Film Critic Matt Zoller Seitz: Success of Avengers, GOT shows cinema is officially dead
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:01 pm to MoneyShot
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:01 pm to MoneyShot
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Hipster douche cinematic "critic" doesn't like mainstream film.
This is noticeably avoiding the point.
You guys are quick to claim douche and snob, but his point isn't wrong. And our viewing habits confirm that.
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:36 am to Jay Are
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But now you've countered his hyperbolic language with increasingly hyperbolic language
Are you his fricking lawyer? Or just another humorless self-important douche?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:44 am to Bench McElroy
Spot on many true fans of cinema agree but this whole superhero nonsense will be gone in 2 years minimum so I’m looking forward to the change we have coming
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:45 am to kale
I love seeing all the marvel figs squirm what an odd bunch
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:52 am to MoneyShot
lol this take is so played out . Just because some people observe film at a higher standard than you, doesn’t mean they’re a hipste,Douche,snob. Just means they love film and make a livelihood off it
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:10 am to PowerTool
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Or just another humorless self-important douche?
Or did you fail to detect humor in my humor
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:25 am to Jay Are
Entirely possible.
But read down the bottom of his eulogy if you want to defend it. His argument is based on an entirely false - or at best outdated by many years - premise about the widespread big screen availability of serious/independent films.
But read down the bottom of his eulogy if you want to defend it. His argument is based on an entirely false - or at best outdated by many years - premise about the widespread big screen availability of serious/independent films.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:28 am to H-Town Tiger
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What “triggers” him is most of what you are watching when you want, where you want is crap
And he fails to understand that any of the “crap” we watch has subjective value.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:41 am to kale
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Just because some people observe film at a higher standard than you,
I know you like to think yo sh*t down stank but
Lean a little bit closer and see roses really smell like
Poo oooh oooh
Yeah roses really smell like poo pooh ooh
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:49 am to kale
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Film
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Cinema
Take the stick out of your arse and say movies like the rest of us
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:38 am to Bench McElroy
The article itself references that serialized storytelling has been a part of film culture since, well, the beginning. And serialized storytelling goes back not just to Dickens, but the oral tradition of Homer and virgil.
The idea that serialization means the death of cinema is arguing that serialized storytelling is outside the artistic tradition of mankind, which is plainly and objectively false.
Hell, if anything is preserving cinema, its the MCU, as it is making the argument for people to actually go to the cinema and keeping movies as part of the central part of culture. Seitz is just mad that its something different at the center.
The idea that serialization means the death of cinema is arguing that serialized storytelling is outside the artistic tradition of mankind, which is plainly and objectively false.
Hell, if anything is preserving cinema, its the MCU, as it is making the argument for people to actually go to the cinema and keeping movies as part of the central part of culture. Seitz is just mad that its something different at the center.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:49 am to Bench McElroy
There's a producer out there making original content and making nearly a billion dollars in theaters just by putting his name attached to a release date. I feel there will always be a place for those talented and creative enough.
Cinema may be changing, but the content itself is not getting worse. All of these well written TV shows on these streaming platforms and premium channels have really led to a wealth of quality content that's actually hard to keep up with.
Also, I would imagine it's much more enjoyable creatively to tell a story in 10 hours instead of 2. That's probably why you're seeing so much great content on all these platforms.
Cinema may be changing, but the content itself is not getting worse. All of these well written TV shows on these streaming platforms and premium channels have really led to a wealth of quality content that's actually hard to keep up with.
Also, I would imagine it's much more enjoyable creatively to tell a story in 10 hours instead of 2. That's probably why you're seeing so much great content on all these platforms.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:51 am to Bench McElroy
I guess I don't follow, radio serials existed, soap operas existed MASH went on linger than the war it was set in.
Shows with more cohesion has been coming down the pipeline for awhile.
Marvel stands alone in a decade long Enterprise though.
Even WB fricked their own attempt.
Shows with more cohesion has been coming down the pipeline for awhile.
Marvel stands alone in a decade long Enterprise though.
Even WB fricked their own attempt.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:59 am to Bench McElroy
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It marks the end of one era and the birth of another.
Not a fan of the article but I would agree with this. Outside of super hero movies or Star Wars, you barely see a preview of another movie on TV. Im not saying they dont show , but I can see a TV advertising budget not pay off nearly as much for a mid-low end budget movie as much as it used to.
If you want to go see a non popcorn flick in the theaters now, you typically have to search for it on your own rather than it popping up on your TV.
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In the future, media organizations might have to do away with the "film" and "TV" tags entirel
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This is what Steven Spielberg has really been beefing with Netflix about: the preservation of the theatrical experience, and of the idea of "cinema," and distinctions between art forms, in an age of "content" that streams along in the same digital river. Whether Spielberg's desire is even realistic is an open question.
Well thats what he says when in reality he's beefing because its less money in his pocket.
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