re: Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald - Comic-Con Trailer

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I have no issues with a gay character as long as their sexual preference has some meaningful impact on the story. I love the Harry Potter universe and will continue watching even if they make him gay, but it just feels unnecessary to the story at this point. I just wish they would stop this unnecessary inclusion stuff. It knocks you out of the movie when it becomes apparent they inserting political messages into a movie that don't serve the story in a genuine way.

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It appears to have a big impact to Fantastic Beasts. One scene from this trailer appears to be Dumbledore seeing Grindelwald in the Mirror of Erised. You could see some of it in Deathly Hallows too. Him being gay didn’t have any effect to how he treated Harry or to the story. Dumbledore never really opens himself up to Harry and keeps the relationship very professional. Harry learns the most about Dumbledore from the Rita Skeeter bio. People would be really bitching had she forced it in the book harder and made it have a much more meaningful impact being a children’s book and all.

She has done a lot of tweaking to characters and further explanation on a lot of stories on Pottermore but you don’t seem to have any issue with them, just this gay one. Probably just don’t care to read them because this is the only one to make headline news.

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I don't have an issue with the "gay one" yet. It just really depends on how it's done and if it matters to the story. My feeling at the moment is that we don't really need to know Dumbledore's sexual preference unless it advances the plot in a meaningful way.

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Again, it’s just further backstory that doesn’t really impact the seven books. She is doing that constantly on Pottermore. You do have issue with this one because you aren’t complaining about the giant collection of backstory additions after the fact on Pottermore.

It does impact why Dumbledore was the way he was in the books. Why he stopped pursuing the Hallows and became a professor. It is also going to have a major impact on how she does Fantastic Beasts. So it is majorly impacting the future story she wanted to tell.

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To make a character gay 15 years after writing his story to appease the SJWs is fricking asinine.

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She didn't "make him gay after 15 years"....She's said he's been who he is all along, she just never felt the need to announce it since it played no part of the story. She isn't appeasing anyone, but I would expect nothing less from you since pretty much all you do is look to cry about SJWs every chance you get.

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there is no one on this site who's opinion I value less

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I apologize for not being drawn to flashy lights like a common house fly would be.

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Wasn't it a case of fans gleaning that information from the small tidbits in the books and then constantly asking her if that was the case until she finally admitted it?

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It was the case of her retroactively making the character gay in order to earn more pop culture cred. Whatever, its her universe. He wasn't clearly gay in the books.

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He wasn't clearly gay in the books.

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I think she wrote Deathly Hallows with him meant to be gay. Just makes sense for the Grindelwald history. Dumbledore's personal life isn't a part of any other book in any great detail.

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I think she wrote Deathly Hallows with him meant to be gay. Just makes sense for the Grindelwald history. Dumbledore's personal life isn't a part of any other book in any great detail.

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Maybe, I just didn't get that vibe when I listened to the audiobook. Grindelwald didn't really seem like a significant character to me at all.

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Maybe, I just didn't get that vibe when I listened to the audiobook. Grindelwald didn't really seem like a significant character to me at all.

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It wasn't blatantly obvious, but you could see it in some of the motivations in their interactions. Why Dumbldore refused to go fight Grindelwald initially, why Grindelwald didn't just give into Voldemort about Dumbledore having the elder wand, and how buddy buddy they were for two adult men sending late night letters to each other and so forth. They weren't kids when they did this, they were out of school.

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It was the case of her retroactively making the character gay in order to earn more pop culture cred. Whatever, its her universe.

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She confirmed that he was gay in 2007...the same year the last book came out...after a fan asked her about it.

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Whatever, its her universe. He wasn't clearly gay in the books.

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Was he clearly not gay in the books? It's obvious some fans picked up on the breadcrumbs she left in the books, specifically the final one.

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On 19 October 2007, Rowling was asked by a young fan whether Dumbledore finds "true love." Rowling said that she always thought of Dumbledore as being homosexual and that he had fallen in love with Gellert Grindelwald, which was Dumbledore's "great tragedy"; Rowling did not explicitly state whether Grindelwald returned his affections.[14][15][16]Rowling explains this further by elaborating on the motivations behind Dumbledore's flirtation with the idea of wizard domination of Muggles: "He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrustful of his own judgement in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and a bookish life."[17]

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All these people up in arms about an interview in 2007. It didn't matter if Dumbledore was gay or hetero or really into centaurs or asexual. He was about the business of wizarding in the books.