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re: Elon Musk chimes in on Helen of Troy being black in Nolan’s Odyssey; now confirmed by Time

Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:39 am to
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:39 am to
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Yes obviously, it’s still her is it not?


Right, but as a sweaty American slave, it's not a flattering picture.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:40 am to
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This movie will tank


Doubtful.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:42 am to
Oh Lawd, the horror…lol
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:46 am to
How about Elon chime in on trying to party on Epstein island but even he was too weird to party with Epstein.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:56 am to
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This movie will tank

Doubtful.


+1 I'd d like to see him put his money where his mouth is and go bet big that this movie will tank lol
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:01 am to
I just hate double standards

She can play Helen and they want a black James Bond and the new Snape is black and it’s considered “brave” and “bold”.

But no way can it be the other way around. Imagine Black Panther being played by Ryan Gosling. They’d be fine with that, right?

Just last week an actress dropped out because of the backlash of a white girl being cast for a part that in the book said she had Mexican heritage

What a joke
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 9:02 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:03 am to
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just hate double standards

She can play Helen and they want a black James Bond and the new Snape is black and it’s considered “brave” and “bold”


Again, not confirmed. And Bond won't be a black guy. People throw this out there for clicks and it works, unfortunately.
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:24 am to
In before our resident Marxists state "It's just a movie. Find something else to get upset about."
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:29 am to
Don't get me wrong, I think she's an attractive woman. But nobody's going to war for that.
Posted by Linoge
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:35 am to
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The rest of us just aren’t that upset about it because it’s a fictional story and want an entertaining movie. I guess sorry for not being this upset about an unconfirmed casting in a mythology?


The rest of you aren't upset about it because you agree with the goal the studios are pushing. Which is to rewrite history to make it more favorable to "minorities" (which is ridiculous considering white people are the worlds real minority by far).

Almost every single tv show and movie are doing this and have been for the last 15-20 years. Every year they get more aggressive with it. Constantly swapping out white characters for POC, male characters change to female, straight to gay, etc.

What is extra disappointing in this case is we thought Nolan was above such nonsense. That he would put the integrity of his story first. Clearly he has changed his mind on that subject or had it changed for him by the studio.



Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:42 am to
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The rest of you aren't upset about it because you agree with the goal the studios are pushing.


So just to confirm, if we're not upset about a random rumor that hasn't been confirmed, that means we agree with woke nonsense? There's no in-between here? Ok, gotcha lol
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:46 am to
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The rest of you aren't upset about it because you agree with the goal the studios are pushing. Which is to rewrite history to make it more favorable to "minorities" (which is ridiculous considering white people are the worlds real minority by far).


It’s a myth. It’s not “real history”.

Yes, I would be upset if I was going to see a documentary on an actual historic event and it was miscast. This isn’t that. It’s literally entertainment.

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What is extra disappointing in this case is we thought Nolan was above such nonsense. That he would put the integrity of his story first. Clearly he has changed his mind on that subject or had it changed for him by the studio.


If Nolan is doing this it’s because he wants to. Given his standing he’s not likely getting strong armed by the studio.

I trust in his casting though. I’ve yet to see any of his movies that aren’t well cast.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:46 am to
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So just to confirm, if we're not upset about a random rumor that hasn't been confirmed, that means we agree with woke nonsense? There's no in-between here? Ok, gotcha lol
Always been the case. don't blindly agree you're a woke liberal commie.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:48 am to
Exactly. How about we wait for something a bit more concrete than a fake image with Lupita
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:50 am to
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The photo that is being used in the OP is an edited photo from when she was in 12 Years a Slave.
He had to find the worst photo possible to make his point. Like her being black wasn't enough to get the point across.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:50 am to
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Always been the case. don't blindly agree you're a woke liberal commie.


What I find funny about the criticisms is that nothing is stopping someone from creating their own production of The Odyssey with what OP and others want cast. No one is forcing anyone to see this movie. Don’t like the casting? Don’t go.

I don’t understand why someone like the Daily Wire doesn’t produce a version that is palatable to the critics? Or better yet, if Musk is so outraged by it why doesn’t he throw some money at someone to do it?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:50 am to
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Yeah, am I the only one that thinks Jon Bernthal is also miscast? I liked him as the tough guy in several roles but this one seems to be a stretch for some reason. Can't really tell exactly why but his brief lines in that trailer also seem off.


Bernthal is a very underrated actor, I'm glad he's in it. But sure, he was miscast even though you can't tell why. Makes total sense.

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This movie will tank.


Ahh yes because Nolan has a big record of movies tanking.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:52 am to
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What I find funny about the criticisms is that nothing is stopping someone from creating their own production of The Odyssey with what OP and others want cast. No one is forcing anyone to see this movie. Don’t like the casting? Don’t go.

I don’t understand why someone like the Daily Wire doesn’t produce a version that is palatable to the critics? Or better yet, if Musk is so outraged by it why doesn’t he throw some money at someone to do it?

is your position that no one should criticize any movie or tv show for any reason ever because, in your words, "nothing is stopping someone from creating their own production"?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:01 am to
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is your position that no one should criticize any movie or tv show for any reason ever because, in your words, "nothing is stopping someone from creating their own production"?


No. The problem is there's a lot of "that's not who this should be" with little action behind it though. These movies are still making money.

You can attempt to control the narrative on a micro level by not paying to see these movies if the "wokeism" is so devastating for your cultural identity. Or not watch it streaming.

My criticism is largely for those who CAN influence production through financial means. If it bothers someone like Musk so much, why doesn't he invest in a studio that will produce a version of The Odyssey he feels is appropriate? His net worth is over 5 billion, correct? Surely that won't put that much of a dent in his pocket.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:06 am to
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Helen of Troy was also born from an egg after her Mom mated with Zeus in swan form. So, I don’t know that I’m going to get bent out of shape over the “accuracy” of the color of her skin.



The whole point of per character is her physical traits, which are clearly described and are the archetype of beauty at the time.

Fair skinned, white armed, golden hair.

I think Lupita is pretty and a good actress, but putting her in this role will just be a distraction. The casting and costumes for this movie have been disappointing overall.
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