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re: Does the ending of The Wonder Years kind of piss anyone else off?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 6:40 am to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 3/25/15 at 6:40 am to Henry Jones Jr
quote:it made PERFECT sense
It makes no sense to me why Kevin and Winnie didn't end up together
"life doesnt always turn out the way you planned..."
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 6:49 am to Croacka
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It's a real world type ending and not a fantasy
Screw real world endings. It's a freaking tv show. Happy "fantasy" endings are what are suppose to happen on those type of tv shows.
But with that said, it wasn't until the flash forward that it was revealed that they didn't end up marrying each other. At least Kevin finally bedded her in that barn or whatever it was they were holed up in (or at least that was what was implied).
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 6:51 am
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:46 am to Henry Jones Jr
I hated the ending the first time I watched it back when Nick at Night was airing the re-runs. But when I went back and watched it after I was older I think it fits perfectly. Kevin and Winnie constantly broke up and got back together throughout the series (to hell with that crazy bitch), so I think it tied up things nicely in the end that they didn't end up with each other and that it wasn't meant to be. I was way more upset about Jack dying than anything. I also loved Paul's character development over the years.
The Wonder Years just had a way of making you laugh one minute and then hitting you right in the feels out of nowhere, like in the very first episode when they find out Winnie's brother was killed in Vietnam and when Mr. Collins died. I think that's what made this show so awesome. Well that and the GOAT TV series soundtrack
but seriously..... frick Winnie.
The Wonder Years just had a way of making you laugh one minute and then hitting you right in the feels out of nowhere, like in the very first episode when they find out Winnie's brother was killed in Vietnam and when Mr. Collins died. I think that's what made this show so awesome. Well that and the GOAT TV series soundtrack
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Growing up happens in a heartbeat. One day you're in diapers; next day you're gone. But the memories of childhood stay with you for the long haul. I remember a place...a town...a house like a lot of other houses... A yard like a lot of other yards...on a street like a lot of other streets. And the thing is...after all these years, I still look back...with wonder.
but seriously..... frick Winnie.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:48 am to Zap Rowsdower
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Growing up happens in a heartbeat. One day you're in diapers; next day you're gone. But the memories of childhood stay with you for the long haul. I remember a place...a town...a house like a lot of other houses... A yard like a lot of other yards...on a street like a lot of other streets. And the thing is...after all these years, I still look back...with wonder.
There's no way in hell I could ever rewatch the WY when just that quote alone gets me a little stirred up.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:54 am to WG_Dawg
Ive seen every episode multiple times and even some episodes like a dozen times
I sometimes end up an emotional mess after a marathon
I sometimes end up an emotional mess after a marathon
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:18 am to Pilot Tiger
I think "pissed off" was the wrong phrase to use. I didn't absolutely hate the ending but it was depressing. Jack dying two years later left a bitter taste in my mouth.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:23 am to LooseCannon22282
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Best episode title ever: Private Butthead
its the one where Wayne wants to join the Army.
The interaction between Wayne and his dad outside the recruitment depot is about as good as it gets.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:24 am to Zap Rowsdower
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but seriously..... frick Winnie.
Dude, when she was 11, her brother was killed in Vietnam which led to her parents splitting up. Have some sympathy.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:31 am to Big Scrub TX
that doesn't excuse her treating kevin the way she did their whole childhood
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:36 am to Pilot Tiger
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that doesn't excuse her treating kevin the way she did their whole childhood
See it from her perspective...starting in the very first episode. Her brother is killed and all he can think about is jumping her bones (her brother's ghost's words, not mine). If you pay close attention throughout the series, Kevin often has a quite lousy attitude. Plus, you say "their whole childhood", when the series only covers 6th - 11th grade. We don't really know. What we DO know is that Kevin valued her friendship enough to write back and forth to her weekly when she lived in Paris. Perhaps he was not as butthurt as the rest of you thin-skinned bunch. Jack Arnold would be ashamed of you.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:44 am to Henry Jones Jr
This show debuted while I was in high school.
I remember watching the first season or two and liking it, then it got tired and I quit watching it.
I've never seen it since, and really have no desire to. I'm surprised he didnt end up with Winnie Cooper at the end.
I remember watching the first season or two and liking it, then it got tired and I quit watching it.
I've never seen it since, and really have no desire to. I'm surprised he didnt end up with Winnie Cooper at the end.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:45 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:I get it
See it from her perspective
I've seen the series a billion times
Kevin was almost always there for her and she let him him and pushed him out as she saw fit. Yea he was whiney at times, but just because your brother dies, doesn't mean you treat someone that way
Look at her behavior leading up to when she broke her arm, or the joint field trip, or at the country club at the end of the series. She was dishonest to the core to the point of driving Kevin to acting so whiney
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:48 am to Henry Jones Jr
Does any show capture an era in time better than TWY?
Incredible show.
Incredible show.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:48 am to Pilot Tiger
unrelated to this dicussion it's weird to think that if the wonder years were created today, it would be following the years 1995-2000
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:51 am to Pilot Tiger
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Look at her behavior leading up to when she broke her arm,
She was clearly in need of therapy. Kevin (the narrator) clearly states she was "falling apart". How much do you ask of a 14-year old girl with trauma in her life?
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She was dishonest to the core to the point of driving Kevin to acting so whiney
Dishonest? I think that's harsh. She was a traumatized early teen who got moved to a new school.
What about the time Kevin bragged to the locker room that he screwed her?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:53 am to Pilot Tiger
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unrelated to this dicussion it's weird to think that if the wonder years were created today, it would be following the years 1995-2000
Stop hollowing out my core with your mission to spread despair.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:56 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:I don't fault her for falling apart. But guess who shows up at her window to let her know that he cares?
She was clearly in need of therapy. Kevin (the narrator) clearly states she was "falling apart". How much do you ask of a 14-year old girl with trauma in her life?
quote:it's not. She witholds the truth from him constantly even though he can sense/knows that something is going on
Dishonest? I think that's harsh.
quote:Never said he was perfect. He also didn't really say they had sex, he just didn't deny it. not that it's THAT much of a difference
What about the time Kevin bragged to the locker room that he screwed her
still. sexual innuendo versus the way winnie treated him is nothing
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:56 am to Henry Jones Jr
The entire last season is awful, and the creators of the show were forced to make it quickly.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:00 am to Pilot Tiger
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sexual innuendo versus the way winnie treated him is nothing
I think you are too casually dismissing her destroyed reputation (which seems quaint now, but was believable then). There's plenty of flaws to go around for both. I don't find her to be any worse than him.
Personal aside: I was recently in SoCal and I tracked down the house where they filmed it (Winnie's really is right across the street, but they have done some modifications that make it look different now). The Arnold house is effectively the exact same except for the anachronistic Honda CRV parked in the driveway.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:11 am to Henry Jones Jr
I loved the ending.. Really brought back the show to a true ending and that to me is what the show was trying to convey. It never was about the happy ending but true life in a time when America was shifting culturally.
The Homecoming episode with Wart was absolutely fantastic.. It was the major turning point for Wayne and allowed the viewer to buy into his changing personality. All the while highlighting to a new generation the difficulties we place upon our youth in war.. The whole show opened up my generation to a view of the War from a place we could understand.. From the opening episode to the ostensibly its close with Wart returning. My Generation had not seen anything like that on a level that we could relate to.
I mirrored Kevin in school, so for me the show followed true to what I was experiencing in life.
The Homecoming episode with Wart was absolutely fantastic.. It was the major turning point for Wayne and allowed the viewer to buy into his changing personality. All the while highlighting to a new generation the difficulties we place upon our youth in war.. The whole show opened up my generation to a view of the War from a place we could understand.. From the opening episode to the ostensibly its close with Wart returning. My Generation had not seen anything like that on a level that we could relate to.
I mirrored Kevin in school, so for me the show followed true to what I was experiencing in life.
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 11:14 am
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