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Disney’s “The Right Stuff”

Posted on 10/9/20 at 6:54 am
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 6:54 am
First off, I hate that Disney doesn’t drop everything at once.

The original movie is my favorite movie of all time.
This new release focuses (or at least the first two episodes) strictly on the Mercury 7. There was no mention Chuck Yeager and Scott Crossfield.
It also is moving very fast. How can a movie seem less rushed than a tv series, that doesn’t even cover the Edwards AFB part of the story?
It’s a good watch so far, but the testosterone of the original is missing.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:08 am to
It's getting mixed reviews because, unfortunately, it's being compared to a near flawless film from 37 years ago. I'm going to sit down and watch the first two episodes here in a little while but I'm not expecting much. However, I think shows like The Right Stuff are important because the younger generation is likely going to be too snooty to sit down and watch a film with "dated" special effects.
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:52 am to
Trailer looks awful. Disney+ is pushing it pretty relentlessly.

Hard pass.

(ETA: I suggest, as a replacement, watch the original film, THEN watch "From the Earth to the Moon" - they gloss over the Mercury program, because it was covered so well in The Right Stuff, but is on par with Band of Brothers in quality of telling the Gemini and Apollo stories.)

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Posted by PEEPO
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:58 am to
I hate revisionist history like this. Everyone knows a couple of sassy black lady math geniuses got us to the moon. I hate to see them twist things to try to give white men credit.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:14 am to
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a film with "dated" special effects.

Outside of the Yeager X-1 stuff, I don't think there is much that looks dated. It's not an effects heavy film.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:16 am to
The Right Stuff was one of the best.

I have no interest in seeing this recent one.
Posted by Dawgirl
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:22 am to
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There was no mention Chuck Yeager and Scott Crossfield.


Thanks for the info on this and yeah, that right there is the reason I am not going to watch it. That portion of the original movie provided everyone with the important insight as to how going to space got started. How in the hell could disney leave out Yeager? Shame on them.
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:40 am to
I just don’t get why this series is even a thing? Who was calling for this audience-wise? You can’t improve on the film.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:18 am to
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Outside of the Yeager X-1 stuff, I don't think there is much that looks dated. It's not an effects heavy film.


The John Glenn orbital flight scenes are also very dated and that's the climax of the movie essentially.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:24 am to
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I just don’t get why this series is even a thing? Who was calling for this audience-wise? You can’t improve on the film.


It's introducing the story of the Mercury 7 astronauts to a brand new audience. People need to separate the film from the series and treat this as its own animal - because it is. The plan is to expand the story of Tom Wolfe's original book with additional seasons that tell the story of Project Gemini and Project Apollo (subjects the book and 1983 film didn't touch on).

I feel like the story of these men and women needs to be told again and again to every new generation. These were the people who helped make our nation great by accomplishing what most of human history considered impossible. If that means "remaking" a classic film to make the story of the Mercury 7 and their successors more accessible to younger audiences than so be it.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:48 am to
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I feel like the story of these men and women


quote:

I feel like the story of these men


FIFY
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:20 am to
Their wives play a major role in the series, hence why I included "women" in my post.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:40 am to
You’re right, I forgot about the shots in orbit outside of the capsule. I was only thinking about him inside with the lights.

It looks bad now, like he’s orbiting Neptune.
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

First off, I hate that Disney doesn’t drop everything at once.

The original movie is my favorite movie of all time.
This new release focuses (or at least the first two episodes) strictly on the Mercury 7. There was no mention Chuck Yeager and Scott Crossfield.
It also is moving very fast. How can a movie seem less rushed than a tv series, that doesn’t even cover the Edwards AFB part of the story?
It’s a good watch so far, but the testosterone of the original is missing.



Just be thankful 2 aren't black

frick actual history
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:18 pm to
You should read the book
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:29 pm to
The original movie is also one of my all time favorites. I watched the two episodes of D+ and while it’s okay, like others said, it feels rushed. I wanted to see more about the actual history of the development of NASA, know more about the men that started the program and their selection process for the Mercury 7.

I guess it just feels more soap opera than History. Through 2 episodes all we know is that Alan Shepard enjoyed fast cars, fast women and drinking. John Glenn was a Boy Scout. The rest are just background characters. Shallow. So far the show has been shallow.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:43 pm to
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The plan is to expand the story of Tom Wolfe's original book with additional seasons that tell the story of Project Gemini and Project Apollo (subjects the book and 1983 film didn't touch on).


As a reminder - HBO's From the Earth to the Moon covered Gemini and Apollo brilliantly. Just as SPR led to Band of Brothers, even earlier, Apollo 13 lead to FTETTM - with some personnel participating in all 4 (notably, Tom Hanks, who was heavily involved in all of these).
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:45 pm to
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As a reminder - HBO's From the Earth to the Moon covered Gemini and Apollo brilliantly. Just as SPR led to Band of Brothers, even earlier, Apollo 13 lead to FTETTM - with some personnel participating in all 4 (notably, Tom Hanks, who was heavily involved in all of these).


That was an awesome series
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:51 pm to
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As a reminder - HBO's From the Earth to the Moon covered Gemini and Apollo brilliantly.


I will say that From the Earth to the Moon covered Apollo well. It did touch on Freedom 7 as well as the Gemini IV and Gemini VIII missions, but beyond that it didn't really go into a lot of the drama surrounding the earlier space missions before Apollo.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:57 pm to
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it didn't really go into a lot of the drama surrounding the earlier space missions before Apollo.


There is some room for more exposition on Gemini - problem is - Gemini is like the middle movie of a trilogy - it doesn't stand on its own, particularly Gemini doesn't. Mercury was the initial US manned program (Can we do it?). Apollo was 100% Moon oriented (Can we get there? What will we find?).

Gemini was the engineering bridge from putting men in space to putting men on the Moon. It has no legs except as the transition from single person, "Spam in a can" Mercury missions to the complex, long duration Apollo lunar missions.
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