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re: Disney's Snow White "Best live action remake in years" | 74% Popcornmeter

Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:06 pm to
It's being called one of Disney all-time biggest flops? At this point, you're only deceiving yourself.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:07 pm to
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You think having to see a movie to give a review is a bad thing?


First of all, you know that's not what someone is referencing, it's more the sample size and audience type, not the act of seeing the film or not.

But even if it was only about seeing the film, that can be neutral or irrelevant. We can get enough information about stuff nowadays that an assessment of a film's quality can be made pretty reliably.

Have you ever tasted poop? How do you know it's bad if you haven't had it?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:12 pm to
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But even if it was only about seeing the film, that can be neutral or irrelevant

Seeing the film may be irrelevant to you, but ill trust the reviews of a thousand people that watched the movie over those that havent.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:18 pm to
You said you have no plans on seeing it in the other thread. Why do you care about the reviews?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70714 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:19 pm to
He’s nit picking at things he thinks will counteract the other 99% of the data. It’s his schtick
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:19 pm to
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You said you have no plans on seeing it in the other thread. Why do you care about the reviews?

I dont plan on seeing it. Its a musical and i dont enjoy them.

Wicked got higher reviews and I'm not watching that either. That doesn't mean they are awful movies.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:20 pm to
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Seeing the film may be irrelevant to you, but ill trust the reviews of a thousand people that watched the movie over those that havent.


Well, you are looking at single points of information - I also wouldn't suggest that either.

A Trailer sucking, not a lot of excitement from people, the first images, the reshoots, a bad lead actress, an awful person of a lead actress, enough bad reviews, the fact that isn't a remake... but is more of a reimagining, and yes, enough bad reviews - this is a certified bad film regardless of whether or not some people like it.

SOME people like every movie, but that doesn't make a movie good or successful.
Posted by kilo
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30159 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:25 pm to
The Op's fundamentally flawed logic doesn't hold up what so ever.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2360 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:30 pm to
I hope you are not sticking to that point. If you are, then do the one that says all audience with 10,000+ reviews and it has the audience score at 20%.



Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:34 pm to
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do the one that says all audience with 10,000+ reviews and it has the audience score at 20%.

haha not suspect at all that the worse scores come from people that couldn't confirm they saw the movie

you guys denial of review bombing's existence is hilarious to witness
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 5:35 pm
Posted by kilo
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Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:40 pm to
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you guys denial of review bombing's existence is hilarious to witness


Cant the opposite be true as well? Access media, conflicts of interest in professional reviews as the media conglomerates have so many companies under one umbrella?

You are just intellectually dishonest to claim review bombing exists but much of the other stuff does not.

You keep ignoring the fact that people are not turning out to pay to see the movie. There is no better barometer and it also aligns with the mass reviews.

This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2360 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:41 pm to
Typical "verified" responses

Great movie. My kid loved it.

Wonderful colors. Would see again.

Thought it was fabulous.

Wonderful songs.


Nothing in depth about reviews. Just people who will say whatever positive bc they like the brand. Just like the "fans" who enjoyed The Last Jedi which was the worst movie in the entire franchise.

The critics are the ones who are paid to watch and review the movie. They are all saying the same thing : the movie sucked. Numerous other YT reviewers are saying the same thing.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70714 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:50 pm to
Disney invented ratings manipulation then started accusing fans of doing it which is typical for groups such as Disney.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:53 pm to
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Cant the opposite be true as well?

yes. which is why using the ratings that verify people bought a ticket makes more sense. it avoids review bombing and review boosting more than just letting anyone vote without proof they saw the movie or using bots to vote.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:57 pm to
You're either trolling or a moron.

Either way, have fun.

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You keep ignoring the fact that people are not turning out to pay to see the movie. There is no better barometer and it also aligns with the mass reviews.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:58 pm to
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review boosting


Dude review boosting is not like review bombing, it's also going to come from people who were going to like the movie anyway, or who want to support Disney, or disagree with "the other," or whatever, and yes they buy tickets, some don't too. But anyone seeing this movie with this kind of front end chaos is probably predisposed to like it, regardless of its actual quality.


Do you think ALL reviews of people who watched a movie are valid or do you think some people will over-inflate a movie? Does their watching the film make the review automatically valid?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Do you think ALL reviews of people who watched a movie are valid or do you think some people will over-inflate a movie? Does their watching the film make the review automatically valid

Yes, some people are more easily entertained, but their review is still more valid than someone that hasnt seen it. It represents a sample of the population that is more easily entertained.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2360 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:06 pm to
According to poster, the only ones who can write a review ( if you would call it a review) are the ones who verify they bought a ticket. He can't understand that the "verified" users most of them will say something positive anyway bc they like the brand. Not giving in depth reviews.

For a movie of this scale, the critics should have loved it. They don't. It's because it is a mess with the story and the CGI. They praise Zegler singing and are harsh with Gadot in her acting and singing.

Some will only point to certain stats and disregard others. This film is a disaster all the way around and the Disney fans are hoping it will have legs like Mufasa but it won't. The word of mouth from the audience is not good.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15498 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:40 pm to
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haha not suspect at all that the worse scores come from people that couldn't confirm they saw the movie you guys denial of review bombing's existence is hilarious to witness


So the 5 Star verified review “Delivered/Perfect” from the account “Snow White Fans” isn’t a biased pumping of the rating?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:42 pm to
You dont think Snow White fans should be allowed to review the Snow White movie they saw?

We gonna apply this to other movies/shows as well? star wars fans shouldn't review star wars content?
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