re: Director Admits Transformers 2 was crap

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Before The Dark Knight, how many people knew who Heath Ledger was? He hadn't been in any big roles in any big movies before that.

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you cannot be serious?

The Patriot, Monster's ball, A knight's tale (love that movie), NED KELLY, Lords of dogtown, and brokeback mountain.

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He was the only character in Crystal Skull that was extremely abhorrent IMO. He didn't write the movie but still.

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yeah I mean he wasn't good but he wasn't the main problem with the movie.

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If you didn't know who HL was before TDK then i recommend you go watch his previous movies

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I know right. HL was such a good actor. I really loved him in every movie I've ever seen him in.

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Again, what??

This is what made Ben Affleck a star, not Armageddon:

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You and I have different interpretations of the word "star". Affleck wasn't the leading man or one of the leading men in a big blockbuster movie until Armageddon. Smith was a tv star with Fresh Prince, but became a movie star with Bad Boys and then a superstar with ID4.

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The director and the lead actor are hating on it

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They aren't "hating" on it. They are "apologizing" for the second one because every Snobby Joe Movie Critic hated it and they don't want that perception for the next installment.

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I don't see how someone can defend it after this thread.

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Why should people have to defend their entertainment selections to internet message board movie snobs? Oh I'm a better movie watcher than you because I watch all the Oscar winners? GTFO.

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They are basically admitting that it was a colossal fail.

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Yeah a franchise that will easily cross $2 billion and may approach $3 billion at the worldwide box office is a colossal fail. I bet the studios are really regretting it now!

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So you want me to believe that Michael Bay gave a shite about his role in GWH when he decided to cast him as Action Hero X?

EL OH EL

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Of course people on here knew who he was. I knew his name before he was cast. However do you believe that more than 10-15% of people who saw him in TDK knew who the hell he was before he played The Joker? Not a chance. If you really believe that Average Joe knows the name of lead actors in smaller films or lower level supporting actors in somewhat big movies then you are a damn fool.

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All hail GamecockAlum. You really think only 10-15% of America has heard of Brokeback Mountain? Really?

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So you want me to believe that Michael Bay gave a shite about his role in GWH when he decided to cast him as Action Hero X?

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He was living in an apartment with his brother Casey and friend Matt, getting tired of being turned down for the big roles in films and being given the forgettable supporting ones. Since Matt was having the same trouble, they decided to write their own script, where they could call all the shots. So, after finishing the script for Good Will Hunting (1997), they gave it to their agent Patrick Whitesell, who showed it to a few Hollywood studios, finally being accepted by Castlerock. It was great news for the two but Castlerock wasn't willing to give Ben and Matt the control over the project they were hoping for. It was friend Kevin Smith who took it to the head of Miramax who bought the script giving Ben and Matt the control they wanted and, in December of 1997, Good Will Hunting (1997) was released, making the two unknown actors famous. The film was nominated for 9 Academy Awards and won two, including Best Original Screenplay for Ben and Matt. The film marked Ben's breakthrough role, in which he was given for the first time the chance to choose roles instead of having to go through grueling auditions constantly. He chose such roles in the blockbusters Armageddon (1998/I), Shakespeare in Love (1998) and Pearl Harbor (2001).

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Yeah your right, Good Will Hunting had nothing to do with it.

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However do you believe that more than 10-15% of people who saw him in TDK knew who the hell he was before he played The Joker? Not a chance.

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It is hilarious how smart you think you are and how far off your opinion of yourself is.

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They aren't "hating" on it. They are "apologizing" for the second one because every Snobby Joe Movie Critic hated it and they don't want that perception for the next installment.

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Yeah sure, only snobs hadn't the cinematic perfection that was Transformers 2

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Why should people have to defend their entertainment selections to internet message board movie snobs? Oh I'm a better movie watcher than you because I watch all the Oscar winners? GTFO.

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Yes, I am a better and more knowledgeable film goer than one who likes Transformers 2. I can say that pretty confidently.

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Yeah a franchise that will easily cross $2 billion and may approach $3 billion at the worldwide box office is a colossal fail. I bet the studios are really regretting it now!

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Yeah, because everyone knows that Box Office equals the quality of the film.

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Considering that production for ID4 didn't even start until a couple months after Bad Boys was released in theaters, I'm go ahead and call you on this bullshite.

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Devlin and Emmerich had always envisioned an African-American for the role,[5] and specifically wanted Smith after seeing his performance in Six Degrees of Separation.[6]

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So yeah, shut your trap.

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OMLandshark


Real Man of Movie Genius

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Yep, I'm the genius who can see that it was Good Will Hunting that launched Ben Affleck into stardom. Doesn't really take that much reasoning to see this.